Why do PBC fighters have bad reps?

[Ray*]

They don’t seek out the best fights. They duck bigger paydays for lower payday in showcase fights. They pretend most of the time like they want the bigger fights but in reality they don’t. They make negotiating difficult for other interested parties. For example when Ruiz K AJ TKO, he then became difficult and started talking bollocks like he doesn’t have a signed rematch contract. Another example Tank Davis claimed he wanted to fight Taylor, he didn’t even face his rivals, but if one of them losses he would then find a voice on social media to tell us what he would have done to that boxer etc.

Honestly the list is too long. And some of them aren’t even active enough, I mean some one like Broner is wasted and a waste of space. When was his last win? When was his last fight?

[Goldie]

So because Haymon is black you think he should be exempt from criticism? It's OK to bash any white guy but if you bash a black guy it's racist?

That makes your point a racist view.

I didn’t say any of that BS you just said. I didn’t say that haymon was above criticism. I’m saying that haymon and the fighters associated with his company receive hate because they’re black men working together to empower themselves.

You can save your breath because nobody with any sense is waiting on you losers to confess. The only racists who admit it are the kkk and **** types. Most racists are closeted and will deny it until their last breath. We all know this.

[Big dawg lani]

Tank Davis is at 135 and is smack talking Lightweights but fighting Featherweights, can't make weight and likes to publically strangle women.

Errol Spence has been smack talking and then ducking Crawford and staying safe with in house fights. Driving around drunk crashing cars while packing loaded guns.

Jermall Charlo calling out Middleweights but when offered fights makes excuses and refuses those fights and imstead drags up fighters from 154 even though he's supposed to be the WBC champ at 160.

And then there is their Heavyweight excuse making machine king Deontay Wilder and his ridiculous fans. Im sure I dont even need to go in to what a sad prick Wilder is and what an awful set of pathetic racists his fan base is.

And all ruled by cult leader Al Haymon who is personally stunting the resume, bank balances and career of his stable. Big shame for guys like Luis Ortiz and Kownacki who were blocked from taking on Anthony Joshua cuz it didn't suit Master Al and his big plan for Deontay.

Some of these PBC fighters are real scummy wankers and they are led by a dirty rich business turd who really does not give 2 sheets about his stable he's only in it for himself.

Everything you said was cool until you put Spence mane it out of all pbc fighters he’s the one who actually has too fight the hard fights in house. But hey if you not gonna be real then okay

[DaNeutral.]

I didn’t say any of that BS you just said. I didn’t say that haymon was above criticism. I’m saying that haymon and the fighters associated with his company receive hate because they’re black men working together to empower themselves.

You can save your breath because nobody with any sense is waiting on you losers to confess. The only racists who admit it are the kkk and **** types. Most racists are closeted and will deny it until their last breath. We all know this.

How has Luis ortiz, kownacki and wilder empowered themselves by being told to not fight Joshua? For more money than they will ever make in their careers not to mention fighting to win a number of World titles? I don't see how it empowered them by not taking those fights, I see how it may of helped Haymons business but as a boxing advisor paid to help the fighters best interests I'm think he has done his fighters a bad service there.

I do dislike Al haymon and it is because he is paid to provide a service to the fighters and he takes them for a ride and uses them as pawns to do what's best for him and his money.

There is no black left in Haymon, he is just another dirty money hungry business all the down to the core and he without doubt breaks the Ali act to do what's best for him

[DaNeutral.]

Everything you said was cool until you put Spence mane it out of all pbc fighters he’s the one who actually has too fight the hard fights in house. But hey if you not gonna be real then okay

No that's a fair point. It's true the PBC is Weltweight heavy. I've been a fan of Spence I've just been put off him with all the dismissing of Bud Crawford, talking about back of the queue and crossing the street. That's the fight of the division, one of the real top drawer match ups in the sport and although Arum is no saint him self or easy gut to deal with it does seem all the negativity on trying to get this figjt made is all coming from Spence and the PBC side. Ellerbe pretty much said the fans had no interest in it so they have no interest to make it.

[Est. Since 85']

Stop faking the funk we all know why people hate the PBC. Al Haymon was getting tons of hate before there was ever a Tank Davis, Charlo Brother, Wilder, and Spence Jr.

This^^^^^^^

[Goldie]

How has Luis ortiz, kownacki and wilder empowered themselves by being told to not fight Joshua? For more money than they will ever make in their careers not to mention fighting to win a number of World titles? I don't see how it empowered them by not taking those fights, I see how it may of helped Haymons business but as a boxing advisor paid to help the fighters best interests I'm think he has done his fighters a bad service there.

Who cares what you “don’t see”? You’re a racist with an agenda, not some objective observer just speaking out of concern for those fighters. You don’t give a f**k about those fighters and their empowerment. You’re just trying to use them to discredit haymon. Their business with haymon is between them and haymon. If they have a problem with how haymon is advising them then they should take that up with him.

I do dislike Al haymon and it is because he is paid to provide a service to the fighters and he takes them for a ride and uses them as pawns to do what's best for him and his money.

There is no black left in Haymon, he is just another dirty money hungry business all the down to the core and he without doubt breaks the Ali act to do what's best for him

You dislike haymon because he’s black and wields power, it’s that simple. All that other BS is a smokescreen. You know nothing about haymon outside of gossip and rumor reports because the man doesn’t put himself out here for people to know. You’ve never heard or even read the man speak and express himself in his own words. You’re just another cowardly racist thinking the fake self righteous grandstanding is going to hide what you are. It doesn’t.

[mcdonalds]

No that's a fair point. It's true the PBC is Weltweight heavy. I've been a fan of Spence I've just been put off him with all the dismissing of Bud Crawford, talking about back of the queue and crossing the street. That's the fight of the division, one of the real top drawer match ups in the sport and although Arum is no saint him self or easy gut to deal with it does seem all the negativity on trying to get this figjt made is all coming from Spence and the PBC side. Ellerbe pretty much said the fans had no interest in it so they have no interest to make it.

spence and the rest of the PBC welterweights have faced better fighters than who Crawford has faced.

Sick of nerds like you pretending otherwise. Crawford is the one you should be criticizing but he's not a PBC guy so people give him a pass. Ridiculous

[DaNeutral.]

spence and the rest of the PBC welterweights have faced better fighters than who Crawford has faced.

Sick of nerds like you pretending otherwise. Crawford is the one you should be criticizing but he's not a PBC guy so people give him a pass. Ridiculous

Spence and the PBC brigade, mainly Ellerbe have said everything I said they said. It is them that is distancing Spence from Crawford. True or false? You moan about who he has not fought yet he's trying to fight the best and its the best that dont want it.

[mcdonalds]

Spence and the PBC brigade, mainly Ellerbe have said everything I said they said. It is them that is distancing Spence from Crawford. True or false? You moan about who he has not fought yet he's trying to fight the best and its the best that dont want it.

Like I insinuated, if Crawford was with PBC and the rest of those guys were with top rank you would be criticizing Crawford.

Guys like Spence, Danny, porter, Thurman, etc all have faced bette fighters than who crawford has faced throughout 3 divisions.

What has Crawford and top rank done to fight a top welterweight? Absolutely nothing and you guys give him a pass because you hate PBC.