When I watched Kownacki get stopped by Helenius I wasn't surprised

[TheMyspaceDayz]

LoL, nah youngster, just been around a while. Knew Helenius skills and history ... he's been in a few wars over the years. As I said though, it could have gone either way.

Only brash young fans believe there's only one possible outcome in these fights.

You can’t show up out of nowhere claiming you saw a 25-1 upset coming lol. Even if it’s true (highly doubt it,) imagine some random guy tells you he saw Douglas-Tyson as an even fight. Sounds pretty ******, don’t it? Proof or it didn’t happen. Next.

[Guest]

You can’t show up out of nowhere claiming you saw a 25-1 upset coming lol. Even if it’s true (highly doubt it,) imagine some random guy tells you he saw Douglas-Tyson as an even fight. Sounds pretty ******, don’t it? Proof or it didn’t happen. Next.

Yeah, that's a tough one to sell. If he could show a post with that prediction, I'd believe it.

Most of us thought Helenius was washed up and this was a cherry pick that went wrong..

Helenius bitd was pretty tough but after his injuries, layoffs, and losses, a resurrection was hard to believe.

[Boxing_1013]

Ruiz can be as great as he wants to be, he is a warrior.

HW boxing is never static (except the Klitschko years), big heavy punching guys can always exceed expectations, their abilities are always underestimated. What made the 80's and 90's great was real fans understood that no matter the hype, you never were sure who was gonna win a lot of those fights. It had to play out.

We're almost there again ...

I just think he is a bit limited...he's tough though and has some other good attributes for a HW - quick etc.

[Dariusz]

The punching bag expression covers a fighter with no defense. Punching bags can have heart but their careers are shortened by too many blows to the head.

OK, thanks for an explanation. I thought this expression covers a fighter that only absorbs blows and is unable to fight back.

[EDDIE SPERM]

He's a fat slob w/ no head movement

[rickJen]

It's not what Haymon wanted.
In his mind Kownacki developed like one of his stars.
Would be a long time before he'll pit them against each other.
Marination first baby.
Ruiz, Martin, Ortiz, Kownacki, Wilder...
With the exception of Martin vs Kownacki,
a round robin will still be an interesting proposition.
But Haymon would rather pit them against minimal threats.
The Helenius choice blew up on his face.
I mean why not Ortiz vs Kownacki, Ortiz vs Ruiz, Ortiz vs Martin,
Martin vs Ruiz, Martin vs Ortiz, etc.
Not anytime soon for uncle Al.
A huge cancer in this sport.