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  • BirdSong
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    #21
    wilder can surely do better than his effort fight 2, i mean he was gasping for air start round 3, he had worse cardio than mcgregor

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    • Mario g
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      #22
      Huh?

      It's over for Windmill, like they they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. All Windmill has is Windmill punches and that right hand. Fury wins by manslaughter on the 3rd match. Imo it's worthless to have a 3rd fight. Windmill won't last 5 rounds. Windmill really sucks.

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      • Tyistall
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        #23
        Wilder will be 35 when they fight next. Wilder hasn't fought a live body in 99% of his fights and he lost most of the rounds when he did. This is a dead issue, he will lose the trilogy fight and he will lose most of his remaining fights after that. Father time is undefeated and Wilder has been exposed as an overrated fraud who beat bums his entire career to make him look good. The end
        Last edited by Tyistall; 03-25-2020, 03:01 PM.

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        • MaksBox
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          #24
          Originally posted by archiemoore1
          Deontay ain't fixing nothing. He won't even speak out against all these people out here making excuses for why he lost, regarding Fury's gloves and other forms of conspiracy theories. He should have come out and said, "Stop saying Fury cheated, he punched me in the mouth because I didn't get my hands up, or move my head in time, and that's all there is to it". If he were to say this, it would mean he's a man intent on correcting his mistakes. Instead, he's hiding behind a group of people who seem intent on changing the narrative to saying Fury cheated, and trying to trick the fans into actually believing that we didn't all see a real fair and square beating take place in that ring that was based on courage and skill- the kind of courage it took to walk a hard punching monster down like deontay, and the skill it takes to land punches over and over on their intended target. Not to mention all the rest of the qualities needed to literally beat down someone of deontay's caliber. That feat could never be accomplished by just pulling your gloves down a bit. It takes one hell of a fighting man to beat up deontay wilder and so credit needs to be given, because Fury fought a fight for the ages that night and i hate to see haters take that away from him with bs like glove gate. You can play with your gloves all you want. You still ain't beating up deontay wilder unless u come with a whole lot more than some tampered gloves because u still need to land those shots and u need to be able to take what he has to give, while avoiding as much as punishment as possible and that's what Fury did
          THIS... precisely.

          Can he beat him? Absolutely. Will he? I doubt it. Wilder from all that we know, does not like to admit where he is wrong and from what we saw reported, Wilder does not like to be taught things different from how he does it.

          Wilder has the POTENTIAL to be an all time great heavyweight but he is too ****** to get out of his own weight. He simply can't box... he just relies on his power.

          I HATE Wilder and his resume of trash cans and how protected he is... BUT....

          Can you imagine the monster Wilder would be if he just worked on boxing fundamentals and movement? a TALL, AGILE boxer who is IN SHAPE AND has massive power.... checks off all the boxes...

          But... as we saw... he allows anyone with a basic boxing IQ to outbox him... he generally bails himself out with his right hand or if that does not work... the judges bail him out.

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            #25
            McGirt is a hell of a better trainer than Jay Deas. I know that much.

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              #26
              The problem is, McGirt has a history of throwing in the towel, so he would not be a good fit for Wilder. He is an excellent coach but very cautious.

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              • PunchyPotorff
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                #27
                Originally posted by archiemoore1
                Deontay ain't fixing nothing. He won't even speak out against all these people out here making excuses for why he lost, regarding Fury's gloves and other forms of conspiracy theories. He should have come out and said, "Stop saying Fury cheated, he punched me in the mouth because I didn't get my hands up, or move my head in time, and that's all there is to it". If he were to say this, it would mean he's a man intent on correcting his mistakes. Instead, he's hiding behind a group of people who seem intent on changing the narrative to saying Fury cheated, and trying to trick the fans into actually believing that we didn't all see a real fair and square beating take place in that ring that was based on courage and skill- the kind of courage it took to walk a hard punching monster down like deontay, and the skill it takes to land punches over and over on their intended target. Not to mention all the rest of the qualities needed to literally beat down someone of deontay's caliber. That feat could never be accomplished by just pulling your gloves down a bit. It takes one hell of a fighting man to beat up deontay wilder and so credit needs to be given, because Fury fought a fight for the ages that night and i hate to see haters take that away from him with bs like glove gate. You can play with your gloves all you want. You still ain't beating up deontay wilder unless u come with a whole lot more than some tampered gloves because u still need to land those shots and u need to be able to take what he has to give, while avoiding as much as punishment as possible and that's what Fury did
                Yep. All good points. The biggest thing McGirt won't admit is that Wilder never has and never will listen to the trainers. He thinks he's the greatest, he knows all, and his punch will end all fights. He will NEVER learn, because he's too pompous and lazy to learn. And now the formula is out there in how to bully the bully. Expect an even worse beating for him in fight 3.

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                • Dasmius Shinobi
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                  #28
                  I pick that

                  I knew before, that MCGirt is the trainer Wilder need to have a chance in the third.

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                  • dannnnn
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                    #29
                    Wilder will never recover psychologically from the beating he took against Fury. He looked unsure of himself right from the first bell and never at any point looked remotely confident in himself. He actually looked terrified at certain moments in the fight.

                    It would take any boxer a good amount of time and some comeback fights to build themselves back up from a loss like that - especially when it's technically their first one - and at age 34 he simply doesn't have that time.

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                    • MulaKO
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                      #30
                      Just don’t see Buddy being the solution here
                      Maybe as of late , Buddy has changed but as far back as I can remember Buddy is pretty much a yes man
                      Forget that , but what can he show Wilder right now ?
                      Wilder , imo , would need more of an azzhole than a coach to get through his thick skull if anything at all is to change
                      Change is needed , but change starts from within and Wilder would need that fire starter to even attempt to change something
                      Just don’t see Buddy as the right man here

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