Comments Thread For: Chocolatito: It's An Honor To Know People Think That Much Of Me

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  • STREET CLEANER
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    #11
    I don't know why so many were so hard on Chocolatitio especially when he lost. He is an entertaining fighter with a lot of skills.

    My personal opinion is that he won his first encounter against Sor.

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    • Corelone
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      #12
      He grew into the division, he boiled down too long.

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      • Combat Talk Radio
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        #13
        "At the end of the day", people can say whatever.

        Choco got dropped ACCORDING TO THE REF. All this whining about headbutts - whatever. The dude got DROPPED.

        Outside of that I gave Srisaket 7 rounds easy. I can support giving him 6 rounds. No less than that.

        It wasn't like Choco got decimated. But we need to be honest with ourselves and STOP playing CompuBox Crips.

        Ring Generalship: Srisaket in damn near every round. Choco was getting walked down.
        Defense: Choco. But only in 6 rounds. The other 6 both guys were tossing leather and it didn't matter.
        Effective Aggression: Srisaket. As Kev noted, Choco's punches were not effective even when they did land because Srisaket walked right through them in 8 rounds out 12.
        Clean Punching: Who got dropped? That's who lost this criteria.


        It's REALLY not hard, people. Srisaket, 7 rounds = winner of a CLOSE, NON controversial fight.

        Choco had one job: stay on your feet. Then I would have had a draw counting swing rounds.

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        • Spray_resistant
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          #14
          Originally posted by revelated
          'controversial'.

          I saw no controversy. The man got DROPPED.

          I said it before. IN a close fight, if you get dropped, there's no way you win that.
          thats not how it works, see you score the rds one at a time and nothing that happens in a previous rd should have any impact of the scoring of any other rd. You then add up the total and by that number decides a winner.

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          • theface07
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            #15
            Originally posted by MulaKO
            More nonsense from Revelated , as usual , luckily we’re used to it
            Calzaghe got dropped in the first round , went on to dominate the fight
            I’ll let your brain work on his opponent

            Smfh
            We don't often agree but I'm totally with you on this one. You get 2 points for a KD. The landed punches tells the rest of the story of that fight.

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            • theface07
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              #16
              Originally posted by 1hourRun


              Roman Gonzalez literally broke a Super-fly compubox record on Sirsacet in their first encounter, 'Chocolatito' landed 372 power shots on Srisaket Rungvisai, close to 100 more power-shots than Sor Rungvisai landed on RG ( 277 ). Further, Gonzalez was not only the volume puncher but also landed as high as 56.4 % in power-punches.

              Headbutts dont count as knockdowns, casual.
              Wow! The logic in your post is astounding. We usually disagree on everything but in these viral, divided times I am happy to say we are on the same page. Way to go 1hourRun.

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              • Combat Talk Radio
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                #17
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                thats not how it works, see you score the rds one at a time and nothing that happens in a previous rd should have any impact of the scoring of any other rd. You then add up the total and by that number decides a winner.
                I didn't say the knockdown impacted the other scores. I said when you get dropped in a CLOSE fight, there's no way you can win.

                If a fight is a DRAW besides a knockdown, but you get dropped, that's a 115 for the guy who dropped you.

                Not sure why this is so complicated for people. That fight was close as hell. I had Srisaket up 7 WITHOUT the knockdown, but there were swing rounds. Without the knockdown, best I can give Choco is a draw. He did not win that fight - not getting walked down like he was with his punches doing F all to Srisaket. Hell no.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  I didn't say the knockdown impacted the other scores. I said when you get dropped in a CLOSE fight, there's no way you can win.

                  If a fight is a DRAW besides a knockdown, but you get dropped, that's a 115 for the guy who dropped you.

                  Not sure why this is so complicated for people. That fight was close as hell. I had Srisaket up 7 WITHOUT the knockdown, but there were swing rounds. Without the knockdown, best I can give Choco is a draw. He did not win that fight - not getting walked down like he was with his punches doing F all to Srisaket. Hell no.
                  A close fight can be won if rds are difficult to score, it can even be one onesidedly with a kd suffered by the winner in the case that he was judged to have taken many close rds.

                  not saying anything in the case of this particular fight but having this school of thought in close fights is similar to the challenger having to "take" the title from champion.

                  Realistically and objectively that is not how boxing or scoring fights works.

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                  • MulaKO
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by theface07
                    We don't often agree but I'm totally with you on this one. You get 2 points for a KD. The landed punches tells the rest of the story of that fight.

                    That’s cool , that’s exactly why we discuss and sometimes gets out of hand lol
                    This actually makes me realize how easy it is to fugh up a scorecard
                    We are hard on the judges , sometimes deservedly , but other times when you see chit like this , it’s quite easy to see how hard there job is

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                      A close fight can be won if rds are difficult to score, it can even be one onesidedly with a kd suffered by the winner in the case that he was judged to have taken many close rds.

                      not saying anything in the case of this particular fight but having this school of thought in close fights is similar to the challenger having to "take" the title from champion.

                      Realistically and objectively that is not how boxing or scoring fights works.
                      I know this.

                      The judges saw Srisaket beat Choco in the first fight.

                      The win of the first fight was later validated by the outcome of the second.

                      If Choco was so dominant in the first fight, why'd he lose ALL FOUR rounds of the second fight before getting put to sleep?

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