Comments Thread For: Rahman Still Shocked By Fury: Wilder Can Make Adjustments and Win

[Gamboal00]

Wilder was behaving over confident in the pre fight press conferences. He was thinking Fury would be running whole night and he would get the long range to land the hammer. He would be shook to core the way Fury charged at him from rd 1.. That no one ever imagined Fury can fight like dis

That's just it. I'd like to see a 3rd fight now that Wilder knows Fury is gonna swamp him. Let's see how it plays out with Wilder prepared to fight moving backward instead of dumbly having no plan B the night of his loss.

If the 1st fight was super close, and the 2nd totally one-sided, then we know something was totally off. Wilder wasn't prepared, he werent used to fighting at 230lbs. His costume weakened him (lol).

Fury would still be favourite of course but Wilds has got to have a better fight than that.

[lion33lit]

That's just it. I'd like to see a 3rd fight now that Wilder knows Fury is gonna swamp him. Let's see how it plays out with Wilder prepared to fight moving backward instead of dumbly having no plan B the night of his loss.

If the 1st fight was super close, and the 2nd totally one-sided, then we know something was totally off. Wilder wasn't prepared, he werent used to fighting at 230lbs. His costume weakened him (lol).

Fury would still be favourite of course but Wilds has got to have a better fight than that.

Well said. Fury fought the perfect fight. I thought he'd win, and he did. (Of course, some well deserved "trolling" is gonna come into play for Furys choice of tactics, as well as for Wilders dumb excuses...lol...so it needs to be expected) Wilders nutty overconfidence wreaked of potentially using his same ole' come forward rangy strategy - and its what he used - and lost with..

But, Wilder aint dumb even though he sounded extremely dumb with his dumb excuses, same way Joshua fan girls sound extremely dumb vouching for his mandatories, and his punk a** photo shoot commercial lifestyle at home sweet home. Josh seems like a cool dude, but he's got that typical dumb jock thinking thats fueled by daddy Eddie and fan girl hysteria that vouch for every PUNK move he indulges in....Eddies always gotta speak for him - via Barry - he's (Joshua) intentionally left outta the loop by them both...they divulge very little to him as they plan his life....go figure

"Wilds has got to have a better fight than that".....thats what I know he'll have even "if" he happens to lose. He deserves another shot due to his ever present brave attitude...maybe a little to brave for his own good....however, Furys primary strategy was the ever efficient "Lean" that worked on a guy that blamed it on his corny costume...lol... Wilder knows what coming this time and so will the "new" ref....say what you want, not even half the amount of leaning that took place in the 2nd fight will happen in the 3rd, unless for some reason the ref has no problem with it. Wilders combo's will be better placed this time around - he's more than capable of doing that....naysayers wont be able to see that though, theyre too busy lovin' Josh and hypin' every organization that hypes the pedestrians he fights...

[LoadedWraps]

Wilder is still my favorite
But
An animal can't change his stripes over night.
If he wants a chance to beat Fury, he has to attack him, guns blazing, from the opening bell, come in around 220, throw 60-100 punches per round, and get rid of those wild, ****** "winging" shots.
Easier said than done

I agree that that approach makes sense for Wilder.

If you can't box off the back foot and move away from the guy coming forward, and you can't counter punch them toe to toe, you basically are left with trying to use offense as defense and try to overwhelm them and set the tone early. Wilder needs to have the conditioning for letting his hands go for a full 12, because otherwise even that plan will fail if Fury is still going strong while Wilder fades.

[Tecnoworld]

The third one has to be totally different, but I still think Fury wins 9 out of 10 vs wilder.

[petegrif]

We have no idea what Fury will come up with this time. The guy has so many skills and such a high boxing IQ I think he will make adjustments and be even better. Wilder can get lucky but otherwise he is going to take a serious heading.

[FlyingFJ]

The third one has to be totally different, but I still think Fury wins 9 out of 10 vs wilder.

That 1 out of 10 for Wilder could be next one?

[Jack Rivers]

I'm interested in seeing a 3rd. I think people are quick to dismiss wilder for a 3rd fight because it was such a beat down from the 3rd round on.

The first 2 rounds were pretty even. You could flip a coin. People forget or their perception is skewed because from the 3rd round on when wilder got hit in the back/side of the head and went down it was pretty much survival mode from there on.

To me, it looked like what was making wilder a better boxer, was his demise. The last couple fights with ortiz, breazeale and even fury 1, wilder was becoming more patient not throwing as many punches and setting up the right hand knockout.

He was getting better at that, rather than being wild, throwing off his back heels and windmill swings.. Wilder even said that he was gonna come in and be more patient. The problem is that Fury took it to him as to where the other fighters didn't and that allowed wilder to be successful in being patient and setting up the right.

I honestly don't believe wilder believed fury when he said he was gonna come right at him. He probably thought he was all talk and was gonna try to out box him like the first time... Maybe, but him putting on 19lbs says he did that because he believed fury was gonna come in heavier and at him so who knows...

Either way, I'd like to see what wilders tactics will be coming in to the 3rd fight. I don't think he needs to reinvent himself..as it's too late in the game to do so but he needs to be more aggressive and not allow fury to push him around.

I don't think wilder can knock fury out if fury stays tall but on his back foot. There's just not enough power there throwing upward when fury heads backwards. The only reason fury got knicked down twice the first fight is cause he got caught slipping/ dipping with his head down.

Either way I'll watch the 3rd. Hopefully wilder doesn't wear a 45 lb suit again 😆

[Squared.Circle]

Well said. Fury fought the perfect fight. I thought he'd win, and he did. (Of course, some well deserved "trolling" is gonna come into play for Furys choice of tactics, as well as for Wilders dumb excuses...lol...so it needs to be expected) Wilders nutty overconfidence wreaked of potentially using his same ole' come forward rangy strategy - and its what he used - and lost with..

But, Wilder aint dumb even though he sounded extremely dumb with his dumb excuses, same way Joshua fan girls sound extremely dumb vouching for his mandatories, and his punk a** photo shoot commercial lifestyle at home sweet home. Josh seems like a cool dude, but he's got that typical dumb jock thinking thats fueled by daddy Eddie and fan girl hysteria that vouch for every PUNK move he indulges in....Eddies always gotta speak for him - via Barry - he's (Joshua) intentionally left outta the loop by them both...they divulge very little to him as they plan his life....go figure

"Wilds has got to have a better fight than that".....thats what I know he'll have even "if" he happens to lose. He deserves another shot due to his ever present brave attitude...maybe a little to brave for his own good....however, Furys primary strategy was the ever efficient "Lean" that worked on a guy that blamed it on his corny costume...lol... Wilder knows what coming this time and so will the "new" ref....say what you want, not even half the amount of leaning that took place in the 2nd fight will happen in the 3rd, unless for some reason the ref has no problem with it. Wilders combo's will be better placed this time around - he's more than capable of doing that....naysayers wont be able to see that though, theyre too busy lovin' Josh and hypin' every organization that hypes the pedestrians he fights...

You talk about Wilder having an ability to put combinations together...when he simply doesn’t (in technical boxing terms). Anybody can throw punches, which is what Wilder does. His combinations are shoddy and amateur. And sorry to burst your love bubble, chap, but he really is dumb. Have you heard him speak? He’s about as intelligent as a goldfish. Ring IQ? Non-existent. He’s never showed any ability to adapt to a situation in any fight.

You people do make me chuckle lol you moan about Joshua’s mandatories, like he’s supposed to turn around and say “na, I’m good, here’s your belt back”, or continuously pay tens of thousands in step aside money. You talk about the “pedestrians” he fights, like Wilder and Fury have a deep resume. You say it like he hasn’t taken on an undefeated champion, an undefeated, big punching unknown (who had the same amount of fights), two very experienced, skilled and crafty fighters and taken on Klitschko, who somehow was a living legend and great fighter when he fought Fury, but became old and shot 18 months later when he fights Joshua, even though the only reason he was out for 18 months was for postponed rematches with Fury and an injury suffered himself which scampered his training camp and prevented him from fighting Lucas Browne. He’s had 23 fights in a 7 year career, and fought more live opponents than Wilder in his 43 fight, 12 year career LOLOL Wilder fought Ortiz twice, and even though he won, he was badly exposed in the first fight and embarrassingly exposed in the second. He’s fought Fury twice and was embarrassingly outboxed in the first fight and battered from PILLOW to post in the second.

Wilder does not deserve a third fight when he’s been convincingly beaten in the first two. He’s unfortunately contractually obliged to have one.

[Ray*]

I don't think he can make the necessary adjustment, i think he is mentally weak. He let Fury get to him in the first fight, came into the second fight trying to be quiet and not do any pressers, lost and made excuses, tried to fire his trainer who saved him from more of a beating, and the trainer whose decision made it easy for Wilder to activate the rematch, so far he felt like he has let down african americans with all his *We and King/Bomb nation stuff.

He has had offers from Buddy Mcgirt, Tarver, Foreman and now Mayweather to help him get back the belt to america. This all must be a lot of pressure on him. Not only that but the prerssure from his own team Finkel, deas and Haymon to add to that.

Honestly sometimes i feel sorry for him because he is the dumbest and easily manipulated boxer currently around but then sometimes i actually don't when i listen to some of his maniac fans. He has been used as a pawn by Haymon for his own political network gains, as bad as Frank warren is when the opportunity came for him and Fury to make some money with the ESPN deal, he met with Arum and ESPN, sat down and worked out a deal for Fury.

That deal benefited Fury and secure his grandkid's future, with Wilder his managers used him as a pawn, they didn't allow him to bet on himself. So i don't know what he is going to change in 4 months with all that has been said and done.

[Ray*]

We have no idea what Fury will come up with this time. The guy has so many skills and such a high boxing IQ I think he will make adjustments and be even better. Wilder can get lucky but otherwise he is going to take a serious heading.

Wilder is not going to get lucky, i know he has a punchers chance but it is quite slim, this is like the Roman Gonzalez v Wing fights. I didn't think Roman should have taken that rematch so soon.

Wilder just isn't that intelligent enough to make the right adjustment in the Fury fight, and the fact that they activate the clause quickly makes it easy for Fury to not relax, Fury would already be back in training and working out the right plan again.

I would have waited till the 29th day to activate the rematch clause, let Fury be going around not training, doing interviews and enjoying his win, the same way Sugar Ray did Duran or the same way Joshua did Ruiz...

Activating the rematch so soon, gives Fury the motivation needed not to sit around doing nothing.