Are some heavyweights just fat cruiserweights?

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  • Blond Beast
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    #11
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Exactly. They lose punch resistance.
    I’d love to know the comprehensive science behind that. I remember Chris Byrd dropping all the way to LH and getting tuned up. I considered him having a fairly decent chin at HW. Also the guys ur fighting when u come down shouldn’t be hitting as hard as ur previous opponents either. But the consensus/theory is that when u drop down divisions/weight ur chin doesn’t even stay relative but actually gets worse comparatively. i.e. If u had a “good” chin at HW, dropping to cruiser you might end up with an “average” or even “weak” chin. I don’t know how true or even all the precedents behind all this, but Id definitely love to know more about it at a detailed scientific level.

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    • Squ□redCircle34
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      #12
      No the problem is that heavyweights of today are bigger than they’ve ever been collectively!

      They need to make a new weight class for the super heavyweights!

      Guys like Fury, Wilder, AJ and etc. are just too damn big for the rest almost!

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      • Marchegiano
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        #13
        Some? Most and have been for over a decade now. We're just now seeing a few full sized in shape HWs.

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          #14
          Originally posted by mike1010011
          Seems like if guys like Adam and Ruiz would just dedicate themselves more to the sport and have a proper diet, they'd be able to make 200 lbs and be relatively muscular and in shape. They have about the same dimensions as most cruiserweights,but with an additional 60-80 lbs*(got corrected by some great posters) of fat on them. What do you guys think?
          - -U a bean pole who could easily make heavy if U were proper manly?

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          • mike1010011
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            #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules
            - -U a bean pole who could easily make heavy if U were proper manly?
            I'm 5'9 and about 170. I'd be rolling around if it got to heavyweight.

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            • MartialMind
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              #16
              Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
              No the problem is that heavyweights of today are bigger than they’ve ever been collectively!

              They need to make a new weight class for the super heavyweights!

              Guys like Fury, Wilder, AJ and etc. are just too damn big for the rest almost!
              Wilder's tall but he's half-bean pole.

              As we saw in the last fight weighing 230 lbs was too much for him and he's better around the high teens and low 220s.

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              • Squ□redCircle34
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                #17
                Originally posted by MartialMind
                Wilder's tall but he's half-bean pole.

                As we saw in the last fight weighing 230 lbs was too much for him and he's better around the high teens and low 220s.
                Wilder is actually a very tall cruiserweight! But has the length and height and power of of a super heavyweight!

                I think he’ll come in at 224 in the trilogy match for more speed and agility!

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