Comments Thread For: Weights: Adam Kownacki 265-Pounds, Robert Helenius 238

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  • Dariusz
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    #11
    Originally posted by BigZ44
    Kownacki is a bit heavy again and Helenius appear to be in pretty good shape. My head says Kownacki will just blitz Helenius and crack his chin like he did against Washington, but Kownacki is easy to hit and you can land straight down the pipe on him with a reach advantage. Kiladze showed us that, Martin had a lot of success in the 2nd half of that fight as well. Wonder what happens if Helenius lands big straight rights on Kownacki's chin?
    Kownacki has never been even rocked by noone despite all those punches he ate. Thus, I think also Helenius cannot hurt him with any of his straight rights.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BigZ44
      Kownacki is a bit heavy again and Helenius appear to be in pretty good shape. My head says Kownacki will just blitz Helenius and crack his chin like he did against Washington, but Kownacki is easy to hit and you can land straight down the pipe on him with a reach advantage. Kiladze showed us that, Martin had a lot of success in the 2nd half of that fight as well. Wonder what happens if Helenius lands big straight rights on Kownacki's chin?
      Helenius has piss poor stamina though. Vs Whyte, he had some success early on and ran Whyte into some decent right hand counters, even hurting him.
      But he already felt the pace in round 4 and decided to coast and run down the clock lol.

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        #13
        Originally posted by asgarth
        Helenius has piss poor stamina though. Vs Whyte, he had some success early on and ran Whyte into some decent right hand counters, even hurting him.
        But he already felt the pace in round 4 and decided to coast and run down the clock lol.
        In fairness, he took that fight on really short notice, but you are correct in that he does have stamina issues. That's why he probably has to find a way to get Kownacki out of there, cuz he will gas late and Kownacki will just keep coming and punching. Stoppage win for Kownacki is by far the most likely outcome

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          #14
          Originally posted by Dariusz
          Kownacki has never been even rocked by noone despite all those punches he ate. Thus, I think also Helenius cannot hurt him with any of his straight rights.
          Helenius Obliterated Sam Peter with hellish shots. That was a long time ago but I wouldn't rule an upset out so easily.

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            #15
            Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
            If Kownacki weren't so skilled and heavily favored, I'd say his weight would be a problem. He does however, need to get hie weight under control, if he has any hopes of being competitive at the highest level.
            It just freaked me out that Kownacki is that heavy
            Is that his usual weight
            Do you know

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              #16
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              It just freaked me out that Kownacki is that heavy
              Is that his usual weight
              Do you know
              Yes, pretty normal. He was dropping weight for Arreola from 270ish.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dariusz
                Yes, pretty normal. He was dropping weight for Arreola from 270ish.
                So he is on average

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                • Dariusz
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MulaKO
                  So he is on average
                  Sort of. As I sad earlier, he himself felt the best with 250ish, but for slower fighters he can weight more as he will anyhow volume them by big number of heavy hands.
                  I guess for a belt fight he will need to go down to 255 or something like that.

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                  • SUBZER0ED
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MulaKO
                    It just freaked me out that Kownacki is that heavy
                    Is that his usual weight
                    Do you know
                    I don't know, but the couple of times I've seen him fight, he was chubby. He amazed me with how well he fought, despite it. However, I don't remember ever hearing of him weighing this much.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                      I don't know, but the couple of times I've seen him fight, he was chubby. He amazed me with how well he fought, despite it. However, I don't remember ever hearing of him weighing this much.
                      Yeah , he’s always big around the mid section
                      Sound boxer , don’t see him having problems with Hellenius
                      He does get hit a lot but seems pretty tough with a good chin

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