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  • Skinny kinny
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    #41
    I think wilder should take a tuneup or 2 but I also thought Joshua should have taken a tuneup or 2.
    I think Ruiz is a bad tuneup if Ruiz turns up. I think he is dangerous to wilder fury or Joshua. They all beat him but an in shape Ruiz is a struggle for all 3 and they look kind of bad.
    Steward also thought wilder would be champion as well. To fight fury and maybe Joshua wilder needs to move circle flat out run.

    It is wilder’s natural style. It’s how he fought early in his career to and after he got the title and in the Olympics.
    He changed after Stiverne 2 and in a lazy effort vs Washington. If he has his legs still he must go back.
    If he runs he negates the 2 biggest problems fury causes him. The feinting and head movement when fury is outside. Number 2 it negates the fury straight line skillful power charge. As soon as fury starts with either just take off.
    You may think I’m saying wilder should become this great boxer I am not at all. It may look better but it’s not.
    It’s actually simple and much less skilled. It’s just outside boxing. Circle right or left. Jab circle jab occasionally jump in 1-2. Hold clinch repeat. Much less clinches than the first 2 fights.
    It’s how he used to fight. No real skills no head movement no setting traps no great boxing IQ and little to no inside fighting. Nobody is going to chase him wildly because of the threat of the 1-2.
    He might have to be dirty in the clinch head butt and low blows.
    The only thing his trainer has to be able to do to is make him run and make him keep doing that in training.
    His little legs become an advantage instead of a weakness ( skinny legged people are usually faster). Can his real trainer new or old make him go back to his old style and keep him from standing there looking for knockouts

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    • Noelanthony
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      #42
      Originally posted by Skinny kinny
      I understand the rest but the money thing. Even with sport washing countries like Saudi or Dubai fury is not going to get 120-150 million which would be triple wilder fight money. 2 UK fighters not much USA money or PPV in USA. It’s not the 70s no country is going to give you the whole GDP. Saudi gave 85 for Ruiz this one gets 120 million. 50 million in uk 🇬🇧 PPV for 2 million buys and international rights. Fury and Joshua get around 45-50 million apiece if everything goes perfect
      I was thinking they would make at least 50-60 million but you may be right. Now why I said that is because the trilogy will definitely not generate as much as the rematch. I’m thinking 375,000ppv it’s and that’s being generous.

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      • The plunger man
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        #43
        Originally posted by BillyBoxing
        There is nothing su****ious about not fighting a dangerous puncher a third time when you have been into the lion's den already twice already came back victorious,
        and when a much more interesting fight, huge payday and big prize wait for you in a Joshua bout.
        yep this we agree on billy boy

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        • Noelanthony
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          #44
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Good post! Lennox didn't rematch Vitali. Lennox didn't have a trilogy with McCall or Rahman. Sometimes you just move on. The thing about the 90s was that there was a lot more talent at HW. Today, we're fixated on only 3 people, 1 who survived 2 knockdowns, and 2 of them that have had their azzes whooped like they stole something!
          With the Brit avenging his loss and the American trying to follow suit but getting knocked out earlier than before😎

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          • DaNeutral.
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            #45
            Originally posted by SNlPER
            Su****ious that Fury's father and his teammates don't want a 3rd fight to happen.

            If Wilder is "easy prey," then surely they would want Fury to finish him now.

            They don't want this fight, but they're not revealing the real reason.
            Finish him? He did that a couple of weeks ago. Maybe these people. Want him to face Joshua rather than waste everybodys time and throw another beating on Wilder.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.
              Finish him? He did that a couple of weeks ago. Maybe these people. Want him to face Joshua rather than waste everybodys time and throw another beating on Wilder.
              But Wilder is still here. He called out Fury immediately for a rematch and he's hungry for revenge. This is the time to fight, not to run away. Fury's team is trying to run.

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              • OPS
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                #47
                I'm seeing footage that Fury's gloves were possibly loaded. Has anyone else heard this or may this be confirmed.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Boxviewer
                  I guess Bowe and Mike eventually fought Lewis.
                  Only Tyson did and got murdered . He even thanked Lennox for not killing him in the ring after the fight in the locker room

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                  • Bronx2245
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony
                    With the Brit avenging his loss and the American trying to follow suit but getting knocked out earlier than before😎
                    The only impressive win is the Gypsy whooping up on the American! Salute to Sugar Hill Steward and Kronk's gym!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      The only impressive win is the Gypsy whooping up on the American! Salute to Sugar Hill Steward and Kronk's gym!
                      And the Irish man Andy lee who actually recommended the Kronk gym in the first place

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