If it was a close fight they would have just given Canelo a W not a Draw

[Thuglife Nelo]

Ok, nothing you said had anything to do with fight one but I believe since you wanna talk about size that Canelo came in heavier on FN for their first fight than GGG.

In any case, he was back peddling alot in that one worried about GGG's power and as a result didn't get too much done.

Thought it was easy to score.

Canelo and GGG were about the same size on FN. In fact guys like Andre Ward and RJJ have said GGG was always bigger than Canelo. A lot of fans dont know about the draining process on fight week. GGG always sweating on fight week at pressers with his eyes seeped in.... how GGG fans dont see that as awkward is beyond me... then again, as many say, “if you can make the weight then...”

[Spray_resistant]

Canelo and GGG were about the same size on FN. In fact guys like Andre Ward and RJJ have said GGG was always bigger than Canelo. A lot of fans dont know about the draining process on fight week. GGG always sweating on fight week at pressers with his eyes seeped in.... how GGG fans dont see that as awkward is beyond me... then again, as many say, “if you can make the weight then...”

And yet its Canelo who has been most recently seen fighting at lhw?

[Thuglife Nelo]

And yet its Canelo who has been most recently seen fighting at lhw?

That’s not how boxing works. The culture in boxing is to drain to make your class. Why do you think Canelo looked like Mikey vs Spence or Mikey vs Vargas? Mikey didn’t have to drain for these fights. Canelo looked filled when he fought Fielding to Kovalev. Kovalev on the other hand, drained.

Don’t ask primary school questions.

[Spray_resistant]

That’s not how boxing works. The culture in boxing is to drain to make your class. Why do you think Canelo looked like Mikey vs Spence or Mikey vs Vargas? Mikey didn’t have to drain for these fights. Canelo looked filled when he fought Fielding to Kovalev. Kovalev on the other hand, drained.

Don’t ask primary school questions.

The point I'm illustrating is that he was/is not smaller than GGG, hes now just not cutting so much weight.

They're about the same size roughly, Canelo being a thicker built guy.

It detracts from my point that I felt their first fight was pretty clearly in favor of GGG.

I'd love to hear a reasonable argument for why Canelo won.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

I’m a realist. Not some fanboy with emotional attachments like the Canelo defence team in this thread. GGG won the first fight. It wasn’t a runaway win but he won. A draw was wrong.

[Thuglife Nelo]

The point I'm illustrating is that he was/is not smaller than GGG, hes now just not cutting so much weight.

They're about the same size roughly, Canelo being a thicker built guy.

It detracts from my point that I felt their first fight was pretty clearly in favor of GGG.

I'd love to hear a reasonable argument for why Canelo won.

Well if we compare Canelo and GGG today much has changed. We can all agree that Canelo is the only boxer (Star) whom doesn’t mind sharing countless videos of him training, either on early youtube to social media uploads. Canelo is now ATLEAST 20lbs bigger than his training days in 2012-2014, obviously because he fluctuated up to LHW, plus he’s older now. His metabolic rate is at the top level, professionally.

I told other posters that there’s nothing wrong with whomever had either guy winning in both fights. ALL circumstances for
Styles and expectations clashed that they phased each other out. That’s why the rematch was needed. I thought Canelo could’ve done more in the first fight, as well as GGG.

The second fight was an ultra elite chess match. Very hard to score imo and also close. Aside from compubox or stats from either fight, I gave the 2nd to Canelo because as a boxing fan, you want to see elites change styles and change the narratives. That’s what makes the drama epic. I’m not going to say either one blasted each other with skill because that’s not what happened.

Given all the circumstances, the second fight was all was that needed, a close ultra elite fight and it could go either way.

So now we’ve got the third fight narrative, do you honestly want it? I don’t think it’s fair to Canelo because even if he sparks him out he’s not going to get the credit since they will say he prolonged it. This is why 168+ is a must for their third fight. It gives GGG a chance to perform without a disadvantage at this age and state of his career. GGG is killing himself to make 160.

I don’t care for the 3rd fight at all.

[Madison Boxing]

Ggg won the second fight just as easily too, 8 rounds to 4 in both fights. Just cause canelo came forward more in the rematch doesn't mean he won any more rounds.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Ggg won the second fight just as easily too, 8 rounds to 4 in both fights. Just cause canelo came forward more in the rematch doesn't mean he won any more rounds.

Again, if you say Canelo going forward doesn’t mean anything proves why you same GGG diehards are confused with GGG moving forward in the first fight. Such posts prove why pros were open to say “it could go either way” in the second fight or that they didn’t mind the draw in the first fight. Why would pros have a dog for either? GGG nor Canelo are making money for the pros and their opinions. Diehards love to credit general fan opinion over professional opinions. That’s just gay

[MDPopescu]

I had been gone from the forum too until recently and was surprised but in a way not that anyone thought Canelo could have even eeked out a decision let alone won clearly.

There is no debate about it in my mind that GGG was a victim of bad/corrupt judging.

Beat him quite easily.


2nd fight was a draw.


I think the Mexican Ginger beats him in a 3rd fight.

Agree with this

Golovkin was expected to do more and that showed on the cards imho

I don't have a horse in the race with these two so it's funny watching both sets of fans spazzing out

Ggg won the second fight just as easily too, 8 rounds to 4 in both fights. Just cause canelo came forward more in the rematch doesn't mean he won any more rounds.

Golovkin got greedy -- he went for the huge money in promised rematch and trilogy... Now GGG doesn't count anymore, he's too old...

[JakeTheBoxer]

by that logic, Mayweather has 2 losses.