Valero vs Pac, can it be doned?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • grayfist
    Just old, not wise
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Sep 2004
    • 2611
    • 152
    • 303
    • 9,016

    #21
    If the fight can't be in the US, there can't be much money in it.

    Pacquiao is eyeing retirement; he's looking at his back account's balances frequently. As he should.

    Under current circumstances, a Valero date cannot be very tempting for a Pacquiao, except if some Japanese promoter puts up good money for a fight in Japan, where Valero has reportedly built up quite a reputation and following, and where the betting is not on whether Valero wins but on whether he KO's his opponent in the first round.

    The promoter may, however, need to forget about making a good sum out of PPV or worldwide TV rights. On-site sales and sponsorships may constitute as his only hope for ROI. That's not exactly a business proposition that can make an investor lick his chops.
    Last edited by grayfist; 08-07-2006, 01:54 AM.

    Comment

    • JOM'S
      MANILA ICE
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Oct 2004
      • 13036
      • 1,420
      • 1,381
      • 28,113

      #22
      aside from Japan how about a fight in Mexico, promoted by golden boy? could they come up with enough $$$ ...

      before the fight Valero was No. 1 WBO contender and Pac at No. 2, in effect Valero's No. 1 contender is PAC ...

      Comment

      • grayfist
        Just old, not wise
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Sep 2004
        • 2611
        • 152
        • 303
        • 9,016

        #23
        Originally posted by JOM'S
        aside from Japan how about a fight in Mexico, promoted by golden boy? could they come up with enough $$$ ...

        before the fight Valero was No. 1 WBO contender and Pac at No. 2, in effect Valero's No. 1 contender is PAC ...
        I don't think Valero has any kind of following in Mexico, pal. And, I don't know that Mexicans will shell out good money for a Pacquiao fight.

        In an interview prior to the fight against Pacquiao, Larios pointed out that big fights are seldom held in Mexico because few would pay for PPV there.

        If one eyes the US PPV market for staging a Paquiao-Valero meeting, the match can be better held in Japan where Valero has a following (on-site revenues), and beamed to the US. But I wonder how much PPV revenues can be generated in the US by a fight featuring Valero who is unknown except to serious boxing fans. It looks to me that Pacquiao's name must have to carry that. Same with TV broadcast rights to other countries, save perhaps Valero's homeland of Venezuela (Edit: and, of course, Japan).

        For financial considerations, I think Pacquiao would rather look in the direction of taking on the winner of MAB-Juarez to get himself a belt. Whatever haters may say of Marco, his name still resonates well with the casual boxing fans. And, if Juarez gets to beat Marco, people shall flock to watch two guys who were able to beat The Barrera. It won't be much of a tough sell and it can be held in good Ol' US of A.
        Last edited by grayfist; 08-07-2006, 03:08 AM.

        Comment

        • daggerdeux
          Banned
          Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
          • Aug 2006
          • 288
          • 13
          • 0
          • 451

          #24
          i still say Valero has still a lot to go. His chin has not been tested against power puncher like Pac but who knows, Valero can change it by one punch. Conventional wisdom says Pac will stop him.

          Comment

          • JOM'S
            MANILA ICE
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Oct 2004
            • 13036
            • 1,420
            • 1,381
            • 28,113

            #25
            @grayfist, so at this point the PAC-Valero fight looks like a long shot, I hope Valero can get re-evaluated and get his US license, I think he has enough promise to be given a chance ...

            Comment

            • grayfist
              Just old, not wise
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Sep 2004
              • 2611
              • 152
              • 303
              • 9,016

              #26
              Originally posted by JOM'S
              @grayfist, so at this point the PAC-Valero fight looks like a long shot, I hope Valero can get re-evaluated and get his US license, I think he has enough promise to be given a chance ...
              The way I see it, pal, "long shot" is right. There just seems to be not much going for it in terms of economics, and, economics often govern promotional considerations.

              I share your hope that Valero gets to have his US ban lifted. Recent developments (Mesi, et al) make that hope reasonable. Also, a more sympathetic look may now be given by the powers-that-be to his case, now that he's a world champ. On top of that hope is one about his medical prognosis: I hope he really and truly is fit to fight, medically. We won't want a tragedy of any sort to happen, I'm sure. Twice shall the tragedy be because we have been forewarned.

              Anyway, I believe the authorities should get on it. US fight fans should not be deprived of the chance to see "live" someone with such an impressive power. If his mitt-power does not translate to championship-staying-power, I think that that matter is best decided by events inside the ring (bar tragedy). And US fans should be allowed to be direct witnesses to that adventure, if nothing else.

              Edit: Good to see you again, buddy!
              Last edited by grayfist; 08-07-2006, 07:58 PM.

              Comment

              Working...
              TOP