Comments Thread For: Fury's Father Warns Wilder: Forget Trilogy, You'll End Up in Hospital!

[theface07]

Wait a min, John. I thought you told us your son would retire Deontay. But he's still here! He's calling out your son again and wants the third fight NOW. Not next year, he wants it right now.

Don't you want Fury to keep his promise and retire Wilder? It should be very easy. Don't tell me you're getting cold feet.

WILDER FANBOYS UNITE!!
You guys make me laugh, grasping at straws for any way to make Wilder still seem relevant. He got beat twice! He got totally undressed and decimated in the rematch. John Fury predicted Tyson would KO him. He did.
All you clowns trying to downplay Fury's win and make excuses for Wilder are sounding like fools. Wilder has a right hand. He made ZERO adjustments in the rematch and its doubtful he will make the necessary adjustments to have a chance in a third fight. Just accept it. The Alabama Slamma got exposed bigtime.

[theface07]

He will need a hospital? Just like that man whose eye you gauged out?

I would think so. Wouldn't you need medical treatment if someone gouged (learn how to spell) your eye out? What is your point? John Fury isn't fighting. Who cares what he did.

[theface07]

I wonder what daddy Fury & son will do if a competent “fit” ref is in there NOT allowing his son to wrestle his way to another “victory??”... They should give Wladimir Klitschko, the WWE, judo dojo’s (in the vicinity) and all rapists a piece of their purse since they incorporated the Klitschko Clinch, wrestling, grappling and a ****. Wilder will now need a baton and mace to fend off the bigger heavier man....hey, if the ref allows it, it’ll be an even matchup....

You are a grade A moron. Bayless is an African American ref and he did nothing but help Wilder survive. Of course bias fans like yourselves will never accept that. Do you want a British ref next time? Lets see: Wilder had home country advantage, home ref, home judges. Where was the bias in Fury's favor? Accept the loss and move on dude. You will be happier in the long run.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I am quite impressed with how quickly, they have moved on to the third fight.

Both Fury & Wilder seem to do business real easy.

I am neutral once again on the 3rd fight, but again leaning towards Fury 'Wilder needs to probably employ a different conditioning coach, and at-least get somebody in to sort his fundamental boxing skills out etc'

[theface07]

Well John Fury the father of the creature, is he going to say that his kid is pathetic when he fights, and runs scared all the fight, only pushes when he knows he fights level C opposition...

Also John Fury is a convicted criminal many times, so i don't take his opinions very seriously.

How does being a convicted criminal make your opinion irrelvant?
Furthermore, he has already been proven right with his prediction of Wilder getting KO'd.
I'd take John Fury's opinion over some random yahoo on the internet any day of the week.

[FratzSS]

Wilder can carry Tyson Furys spit bucket.

[FratzSS]

They can't handle the great white hope

[KingGilgamesh]

Wilder has ignored the fundamentals for too long, completely over-relying on his one hit power. At his age and with the amount of fights he's had, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Anyone near his height with a decent weight advantage will now stay tight and manhandle him in their best Fury impersonation, instead of trying to dart in and out of range like they used to out of fear of Wilders power.

Pretty much, and I say that whilst being a big time Wilder fan. I disagree on not being able to learn new tricks. Wilder needs a championship trainers, I never had much issue with Deas but learning now that he is a former reporter with little experience handling big time fights makes me question the acumen of Wilder's team. Especially when it comes to boxing. He needs to accept the loss and have a serious think about retooling.

The one thing Wilder has on his side though is that he was beat by one of the largest men in the division. If not the largest currently. Fury being 6'9 is bad enough but its the 85" reach which is just ridiculous. I think someone else will ******ly think they can pull off the same trick and get starched. Fury is truly an incredible boxer and Wilder really discredits himself the more time he spends thinking up dumb excuses instead of just giving Fury credit.

[KingGilgamesh]

I am quite impressed with how quickly, they have moved on to the third fight.

Both Fury & Wilder seem to do business real easy.

I am neutral once again on the 3rd fight, but again leaning towards Fury 'Wilder needs to probably employ a different conditioning coach, and at-least get somebody in to sort his fundamental boxing skills out etc'

I think Fury will have Wilder's lunch. And, once again, I say that as a Wilder fan. Fury just has too many things going for him. The combination of experience, skill, size, strength (now, seemingly) and power is just too much. He is a superior boxer to Wilder in just about every feasible metric. Whats key here is not simply that Fury is a better boxer, but that he has a vastly superior understanding of the sport. People have been citing the "glove gate" debacle as if it serves as a reasonable excuse for Wilder's mauling. Yes, Fury probably shifts the padding on his gloves but no, hat isn't any example of Fury cheating...its simply a better understanding of the game. Its the kind of **** Mayweather (albeit probably not as egregiously) has been doing for years. And credit to both of them, anyone who wants to play fair in a $100m+ fight is a fool. Cast our minds back to literally this time last year. Fury could have taken an immediate rematch (especially considering he was the one who was "cheated" out of a victory in the first fight) and yet he didn't. Thats because Fury knew he wasn't capable of besting Wilder at the time. He smartly waited, got a few more rounds in (14 to be precise) and learned that his negative boxing style would likely get found out in a second Wilder fight. He returned, found a new trainer, adopted a new style and put on a clinic.

Wilder, by comparison, has spent the last four years chasing tough fights like a headless chicken. First Povetkin (who popped), then Ortiz (who also popped), then Fury and then rushed back into Fury again. And what has he achieved by doing this? **** all. His loss now makes him look like a ducking fraud whilst an actual bum ducking fraud, like Whyte, gets past scot free. Thats because Whyte, like Fury, understands the importance of not letting your ego get the better of you and marching into wars one cannot win. He seems to be making yet the same mistake again rushing into another fight with the best heavyweight in the world. He needs time, he needs to forget about the heaps of criticism he is used to and start to actually learn the art of matchmaking and pugilism. Because, if he doesn't, he's gonna get starched again.

[KingGilgamesh]

Yep seriously, this is boxing. As soon as he signed with Arum, one of the most powerful people in the sport, he could get away with anything as he's now an extremely expensive asset.

The evidence is he's a 270lbs man with the body of a grandad that didn't seem to tire at all from the first bell. Look at when AJ came in heavy vs WK, he was blowing after 3 rounds. Yet here we have an even heavier, less athletic giant seemingly on Duracell dummy batteries, and the person in question is also a convicted PEDs cheat from before (which the media never mention as they blow smoke up his a$$).

Sorry but nah. Fury may have been on PEDs, but Widler was on them too. I think this was a big reason why he lost the fight. Wilder has solid cardio but he too was blowing out by the ****ing third round. Thats because he obviously jumped on a cycle and, rather foolishly, didn't acclimatise to the weight. I could tell from the weigh-in, he looked bloated from all the excess water weight roids give you. He's always been solid between 210lbs-220lbs. Wilder doesn't NEED the extra bulk, his power is largely generated from his genetic gifts in the form of his long reach, large clavicles and fast twitch muscle fibres.