Comments Thread For: Wilder-Fury 3 Tentative For July 18 At MGM Grand In Las Vegas

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That’s not what I’m doing. I’ve thought this about Wilder since he was hurt BAD by Eric Molina (LOL). Then getting outboxed by the likes of Szpilka and Washington? Tells me his chin isn’t great at all and the whole world knows Wilder struggles BAD with anybody that can move and box. Joshua can move and box (not saying he’s a Fury) and has very heavy hands. Trying to make a comparison between Ruiz and Wilder is daft. What Ruiz has shown is that AJ struggles with shorter, faster opponents. As for being clearly affected in the rematch with Ruiz, just, no. He was probably clearly affected like once. Again, he struggles with shorter guys; when he tried to tie Ruiz up he would just easily slip out and bundle AJ around with the shots on the top/slide of the head. He didn’t do a little bambi dance like in the first fight, wasn’t clearly affected. He was literally getting bundled around in those close encounters. AJ vs. Wilder would either be a case of AJ employing the same type of tactic against Ruiz; stay on the outside, make Wilder miss, and when he lands the same punches he caught Ruiz with...Neh mate...Wilder will go bambi legs and AJ will pounce. OR, a possible tactic could be the Fury way; bum rush, hold, lean, throw some big inside shots. Wilder obviously has the same chance he does in every fight, one big right hand. But that’s literally it. I just think AJ would catch him first. Too strong, considerably more skilled, and has only been affected by proven punches. Whyte would bum rush him. Chisora would do the same.

And just saying, but I think that besides the bookies, almost everybody and their grannies cat saw Gonzalez and Price winning LOL

Those were just two recent betting examples. I won over £1000 on those fights. There's a difference between thinking someone will win and putting big money on it. I'm always talking about my bets on here that I place before the fight and win a load of money on boxing. 95% success rate is outstanding. A few more examples I had Thompson to beat Price 1 at 5-1, to beat Price 2 at 7-2. Fury to beat Wlad at 7-2, Pac to beat Thurman 11-10. I also often bet on method of win KO or points and am almost always right. There's so much money to be made at boxing betting. Football (soccer) is way harder. Only break even usually at end of season or win small/lose small. I rate Joshua, just think Wilder's rangy shots cause him massive problems. Would love to see that fight. Doubt it will happen now though.

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And I simply can’t bring myself to rate Wilder as one of the very best, at all. He literally only has the power when it comes to slightly above average boxers. I do however give him a 50/50 with almost everybody for that reason, but that reason alone. As Fury and Ortiz showed (up until he got ****y and complacent. Let’s be real, Wilder didn’t set him up or position him, that’s just what some people want to see lol) if you take away his right hand then he’s just another wally with gloves on lol

I agree that he didn't set up and position him. But you do have to go 36 minutes without being knocked out by him which is very hard, or knock him out which isn't as easy as Fury made it look.

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I agree that he didn't set up and position him. But you do have to go 36 minutes without being knocked out by him which is very hard, or knock him out which isn't as easy as Fury made it look.

Yea I agree it isn’t as easy as Fury made it look, but Fury didn’t do it through skill this time, just roughhouse tactics. A guy the same size as Wilder, but much stronger, will have a sound chance of replicating that strategy to nullify his right. If Fury bullies him again and stops him within 7 rounds then we might never see AJ vs. Wilder come to fruition. Fury beats Wilder, AJ beats Pulev, Fury vs. AJ for two fights is highly possible. What does Wilder do in the meantime? Probably retire.

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Yea I agree it isn’t as easy as Fury made it look, but Fury didn’t do it through skill this time, just roughhouse tactics. A guy the same size as Wilder, but much stronger, will have a sound chance of replicating that strategy to nullify his right. If Fury bullies him again and stops him within 7 rounds then we might never see AJ vs. Wilder come to fruition. Fury beats Wilder, AJ beats Pulev, Fury vs. AJ for two fights is highly possible. What does Wilder do in the meantime? Probably retire.

Wilder will have to decide whether to retire or rebuild. I think he has made a mistake taking the third fight. If he loses, as most think he will, it will be two losses in a row, he'll still be beltless, and people won't want to face him as he will be high risk, low reward.

I'd have massive respect for him if he loses again, but hen comes back and goes onto beat other top fighters. Fury has his number, there's no doubt about that. But I want to see Wilder fight Joshua, Usyk, Whyte, Dubois. All interesting match-ups. The fight right now though is Fury vs Joshua. Joshua needs to be fully focused on Pulev though. Pulev isn't a walkover and could potentially be a fight where he has moments of difficulty, and Fury needs to prepare for the best of Wilder.

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Get it out of the way. The sooner the better. We all knew Wilder would crumble when he finally stepped up so it's time to move on.

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Hire Naazim

Wilder should hire Naazim Richardson. He saved Mosley's career (and maybe his life) when he caught Antonio Margarito loading his gloves before their fight in 2009. This after the state commissioner had conducted their "throughout" check. Boxers cheat. You need someone in your corner who understands that, and will look out for you. Breland is punch drunk, and Deas is a novice. Swallow your immense pride and get a proper corner.

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Don't get fooled people! Yes there is rematch clause in the contract. Eddy talked about step aside money, but this is a done deal. It was done deal before the first fight, jsut like the BS back & forth with AJ is just to create drama and hype a potential fight.

Like someone here already said, Wilder can't learn the skills he needs to learn and master them in time for the 3rd fight. He will get his @ss handed to him yet again and face someone like Kownacki or Martin to stay busy while FUry and AJ do there thing.

Wilder forgets that Fury will have the same unwritten agreement with AJ and that he wont be facing the winner anytime soon.

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Yea I agree it isn’t as easy as Fury made it look, but Fury didn’t do it through skill this time, just roughhouse tactics. A guy the same size as Wilder, but much stronger, will have a sound chance of replicating that strategy to nullify his right.

I'm not sure this is the case. Of course anybody who fights Wilder now is going to try and bully him, but Fury beat Wilder as much with skill as he did with physicality. Fury has a unique combination of size, speed and boxing ability, certainly in this era, but also probably ever. His feet put him in position to beat Wilder up, but it was also his feints, quick double step, accurate jab, etc. He walked Wilder into right hands by setting traps, not something I can see many heavyweights good enough to replicate. Compare this to someone like Ortiz, who is also a highly skilled boxer, but has feet that are stuck in cement. He could really only fight Wilder by standing in front of him and looking to counterpunch, which gives Wilder 12 rounds to land that right hand. The other issue is that there aren't that many top level heavyweights that can match Wilder's size and reach - most are at a physical and athletic disadvantage.

I always thought Joshua could KO Wilder if he rushed him and landed something significant in the first few rounds. The problem is, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have fought him that way, instead looking to box at long and medium range. He has a great chance now that Fury has laid down the blueprint though. He's obviously not as skilled or crafty as Fury, but he hits much harder. Other than Joshua though, I give Wilder a good chance against all the other top guys. Dillian Whyte would be a problem and a fit, hungry Andy Ruiz has a chance to get inside, but both guys could easily get starched with one shot.

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Wilder will have to decide whether to retire or rebuild. I think he has made a mistake taking the third fight. If he loses, as most think he will, it will be two losses in a row, he'll still be beltless, and people won't want to face him as he will be high risk, low reward.

I'd have massive respect for him if he loses again, but hen comes back and goes onto beat other top fighters. Fury has his number, there's no doubt about that. But I want to see Wilder fight Joshua, Usyk, Whyte, Dubois. All interesting match-ups. The fight right now though is Fury vs Joshua. Joshua needs to be fully focused on Pulev though. Pulev isn't a walkover and could potentially be a fight where he has moments of difficulty, and Fury needs to prepare for the best of Wilder.

Yea if he does lose, which I’m more confident than ever that he will, and he does actually come back and gets in there with top guys and has a go, then I’ll have more respect for him than I do now. I still won’t like him or ever side with him though lol

As for AJ v Pulev, the only ones who think Pulev isn’t a live opponent are the die hard AJ haters/Wilder undercarriage lickers. He’s a Chisora type that can blow hot and cold from one fight to the next, but when he’s on it, he’s on it.

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I'm not sure this is the case. Of course anybody who fights Wilder now is going to try and bully him, but Fury beat Wilder as much with skill as he did with physicality. Fury has a unique combination of size, speed and boxing ability, certainly in this era, but also probably ever. His feet put him in position to beat Wilder up, but it was also his feints, quick double step, accurate jab, etc. He walked Wilder into right hands by setting traps, not something I can see many heavyweights good enough to replicate. Compare this to someone like Ortiz, who is also a highly skilled boxer, but has feet that are stuck in cement. He could really only fight Wilder by standing in front of him and looking to counterpunch, which gives Wilder 12 rounds to land that right hand. The other issue is that there aren't that many top level heavyweights that can match Wilder's size and reach - most are at a physical and athletic disadvantage.

I always thought Joshua could KO Wilder if he rushed him and landed something significant in the first few rounds. The problem is, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have fought him that way, instead looking to box at long and medium range. He has a great chance now that Fury has laid down the blueprint though. He's obviously not as skilled or crafty as Fury, but he hits much harder. Other than Joshua though, I give Wilder a good chance against all the other top guys. Dillian Whyte would be a problem and a fit, hungry Andy Ruiz has a chance to get inside, but both guys could easily get starched with one shot.

That is the thing with Wilder, regardless how technically shabby he is, he always has that chance. This guy could beat him and that guy and this guy and that guy, but at the end of the day, the one true thing Wilder has ever said; “They have to be perfect for every second of every round, I only have to be perfect for one second”.