Has the word "robbery" lost all meaning?

[Armchairhero]

Go back and watch the fight again.

I said 'arguably' because Hopkins performed extremely well yet somehow the judges didn't agree. It was the one fight I can recall that exposed Calslappy's defensive weakness.

Even if it was close ( I don’t think it was ) it can’t be a robbery. A robbery is a blatant bad decision and the vast majority of people thought joe won the fight...

You are who this whole thread is aimed at.

[Spray_resistant]

Even if it was close ( I don’t think it was ) it can’t be a robbery. A robbery is a blatant bad decision and the vast majority of people thought joe won the fight...

You are who this whole thread is aimed at.

The thing about Hopkins/Calzaghe is everyone who says Hopkins won always point to how Joe's slapping style didnt do any damage as if Hopkins doesn't have to do anything and automatically wins unless Joe bludgeoned him.

It was more of a fight where Hopkins didn't do enough to win rds more than Joe won them but I always score that 115-112 for Joe everytime I watch that messy ugly fight

[Stev3]

If their fighter loses they call it a robbery, yes they use that term way too much

[Marchegiano]

Bro why say all that, instead of just posting a scorecard or two from a recent fight.



Bro you don't even score fights lol...just fall back man.

Btw you look increasingly foolish when you try and create arguments on here out of nothing...you just look desperate...if you don't understand that not every punch is scored equally and that harder and cleaner punches are given more weight, I don't know what to tell ya man.

In any event, the little bit of fun I have with you on here is kind of gone at this point...you have such a big opinion of fights and fighters and you don't even score fights, and haven't for decades! Just embarrassing man...take care...try toning it down a bit, and actually watching the sport and judging guys based on what they do, and not what you want them to do.

Because you've a chip on you shoulder and clearly want to a debate over scorecards. My stance is those debates range from pointless to straight up ******. If you want my scorecards and you want to change the issue to my scorecards rather than discussing whether or not any knowledge of how to score actually matters given it's judges, not you, who do it then you're going to have to make that happen.


I came here to make fun of people who can't get enough scorecard comparison and you jumped right up to be that guy.....why the **** would I join you?

[Combat Talk Radio]

The thing about Hopkins/Calzaghe is everyone who says Hopkins won always point to how Joe's slapping style didnt do any damage as if Hopkins doesn't have to do anything and automatically wins unless Joe bludgeoned him.

It was more of a fight where Hopkins didn't do enough to win rds more than Joe won them but I always score that 115-112 for Joe everytime I watch that messy ugly fight

I can accept the bold as the answer.

What I don't accept is this narrative that Joe was "better" than B-Hop. Because he wasn't - and that's the point.

[Boxing_1013]

Because you've a chip on you shoulder and clearly want to a debate over scorecards. My stance is those debates range from pointless to straight up ******. If you want my scorecards and you want to change the issue to my scorecards rather than discussing whether or not any knowledge of how to score actually matters given it's judges, not you, who do it then you're going to have to make that happen.


I came here to make fun of people who can't get enough scorecard comparison and you jumped right up to be that guy.....why the **** would I join you?

Well I guess you've got me man...I do want to debate/have discussions on here...it's a boxing forum and that's what it should be for.

I guess you want to use the forum to make snarky comments and act holier-than-thou...that's cool though.

Again I just find it a bit funny that you act like some moral authority on judging fights, yet I've never seen you post a card...so I asked if you had any cards available, as this seemed like an appropriate thread to discuss cards/what fights we felt were robberies/weren't robberies.

Your buddy Time already admitted he hasn't scored fights for decades...yet he tries to have all these big opinions about who won fights lol...it's bizarre...not really lumping you in with him of course, but yeah not sure why you would make the comments you made, and not just join the discussion/give your opinion on specific fights...my 2 cents is that it makes you look like a bit of a douche.

If you are going to make a big claim about who you feel won a 12 round/10 round fight, you should pretty much immediately post your card from the fight, and then a little summary of why you scored it the way you did...then some good boxing debates can happen.

Not really sure why you're being so defensive about it, but do you my friend.

[Marchegiano]

Well I guess you've got me man...I do want to debate/have discussions on here...it's a boxing forum and that's what it should be for.

I guess you want to use the forum to make snarky comments and act holier-than-thou...that's cool though.

Again I just find it a bit funny that you act like some moral authority on judging fights, yet I've never seen you post a card...so I asked if you had any cards available, as this seemed like an appropriate thread to discuss cards/what fights we felt were robberies/weren't robberies.

Your buddy Time already admitted he hasn't scored fights for decades...yet he tries to have all these big opinions about who won fights lol...it's bizarre...not really lumping you in with him of course, but yeah not sure why you would make the comments you made, and not just join the discussion/give your opinion on specific fights...my 2 cents is that it makes you look like a bit of a douche.

If you are going to make a big claim about who you feel won a 12 round/10 round fight, you should pretty much immediately post your card from the fight, and then a little summary of why you scored it the way you did...then some good boxing debates can happen.

Not really sure why you're being so defensive about it, but do you my friend.

Bubba, I did not quote you to have a debate about a thing you openly object to debating.


I'm willing to discuss the validity of fan cards vs official cards or some such similar.

Ask me who I think landed the most effective punches in a given fight or round and I'll answer that. Asking me to produce a card is asking me to either: (A) Search this forum for my former posts (B) Rewatch a fight and report what I think.


I do have gigs worth of boxing relative text and pdf files, but, they're sources not scorecards because I'm not the type to keep such meaningless nonsense.


Check the round by rounds and live response threads. I score live when I'm here and when people ask for it while it's active in my notifications I'll copy and paste it for them. Outside of that, you're asking me to do work for you so that you can use me has a vehicle to have a debate that interests only you.


Find the cards, quote me, I'll back myself up. Outside of that I have no reason to entertain this debate.

For the record, I did not intend to come off as self righteous.

[Boxing_1013]

Bubba, I did not quote you to have a debate about a thing you openly object to debating.


I'm willing to discuss the validity of fan cards vs official cards or some such similar.

Ask me who I think landed the most effective punches in a given fight or round and I'll answer that. Asking me to produce a card is asking me to either: (A) Search this forum for my former posts (B) Rewatch a fight and report what I think.


I do have gigs worth of boxing relative text and pdf files, but, they're sources not scorecards because I'm not the type to keep such meaningless nonsense.


Check the round by rounds and live response threads. I score live when I'm here and when people ask for it while it's active in my notifications I'll copy and paste it for them. Outside of that, you're asking me to do work for you so that you can use me has a vehicle to have a debate that interests only you.


Find the cards, quote me, I'll back myself up. Outside of that I have no reason to entertain this debate.

For the record, I did not intend to come off as self righteous.

I got ya man...maybe I have a good memory... for most of those contentious fights I can more or less remember my cards so I thought others could do the same.

But to be fair, I probably only remember the rd by rd scores for about 5-10 fights...and the rest I just remember my general score...trying to think back on some of those fights now, I would need to watch go back and refresh my memory to see which rd was which, so I understand your point.

[Spray_resistant]

I can accept the bold as the answer.

What I don't accept is this narrative that Joe was "better" than B-Hop. Because he wasn't - and that's the point.

They both looked really bad, Joe was made to look very amateurish by Hopkins spoiling and Bhop just can't win rds mostly spoiling letting off punches only here and there.

[Combat Talk Radio]

They both looked really bad, Joe was made to look very amateurish by Hopkins spoiling and Bhop just can't win rds mostly spoiling letting off punches only here and there.

All I know is...