Interesting top 10 clean HW fighters list

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OOOps, my mistake. It looks even worse.

1. Fury
2. Joshua
3. Whyte
4. Wilder
5. Ortiz
6. Ruiz
7. Povetkin
8. Parker
9. Hunter
10. Kownacki

Imho prolly over 80% of all top athletes are taking something but I wont call anyone a cheater until they fail a test . Why is wilder underlined ?? I dont remember him ever failing a drug test .

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What about his first ban ?? Where there is smoke there is fire I think he should have worded it different tho I agree maybe fighters who have failed tests not drug cheats .

"Where there is smoke there is fire"

This is how cops imprison young black American lives every day.
Just assuming stuff is f****d up.
Guy is innocent - don't just assume.

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And Kownacki is good friends and went to the same gym as the biggest cheater in the sport, Big Baby Miller.

Easy to do guilt by association. I mean it's hard to believe he wouldn't know Miller was juicing.

He refuses Joshua and people think he may have been on some stuff.

He may be clean but that is not a good look.


I often wonder how many guys actually don't use gear anymore.

Very few dont my man , very few imo . In any sport over 3/4 the top athletes are likely taking something. Also let's add to the kownacki post that he set an all time record with arreola for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight . It kind of screams epo but iam definately not pointing fingers at anyone . I wont call any fighter a cheater until they are popped .

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Very few dont my man , very few imo . In any sport over 3/4 the top athletes are likely taking something. Also let's add to the kownacki post that he set an all time record with arreola for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight . It kind of screams epo but iam definately not pointing fingers at anyone . I wont call any fighter a cheater until they are popped .

I actually deleted that post.

Bottom line, it just looks suspect as hell.

Maybe it's not and maybe I am being unfair...

[NORMNEALON]

"Where there is smoke there is fire"

This is how cops imprison young black American lives every day.
Just assuming stuff is f****d up.
Guy is innocent - don't just assume.

He failed two tests . The second one was def shady but he was banned for two years for the first one . That's hardly assuming with the wording I put " fighters who have failed drug tests " then something happens again . The guy has arguably been caught twice altho i will agree the second time was very odd . Iam not assuming anything iam simply stating the fact that the man has failed two tests in career . U dont find that off aswell ?? Hardly screams clean athlete .

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I actually deleted that post.

Bottom line, it just looks suspect as hell.

Maybe it's not and maybe I am being unfair...

No i agree with you alot of things look suspect these days. U didnt call him a cheater u simply stated your concerns and altho speculation make some valid points . It's also easy to assume a chubby kid isnt taking anything but that's also speculation . The bottom line is that prolly most these guys are on something it is the day and age we live in .

[Dariusz]

Very few dont my man , very few imo . In any sport over 3/4 the top athletes are likely taking something. Also let's add to the kownacki post that he set an all time record with arreola for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight . It kind of screams epo but iam definately not pointing fingers at anyone . I wont call any fighter a cheater until they are popped .

Kownacki always throw an incredibly number of punches, nothing odd that he set a new record with someone like Arreola. Besides, look at him -- he is the last man who could be accused of anything; even fat Ruiz looks more athletic than Adam.
And suggesting that he might be a cheat because he is a friend of a cheat is just ******. He refused Joshua because of his pregnant wife.

Correct me if I am wrong here -- Whyte was banned a few years ago for cheating. Wilder was caught with narcotics once.

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He failed two tests . The second one was def shady but he was banned for two years for the first one . That's hardly assuming with the wording I put " fighters who have failed drug tests " then something happens again . The guy has arguably been caught twice altho i will agree the second time was very odd . Iam not assuming anything iam simply stating the fact that the man has failed two tests in career . U dont find that off aswell ?? Hardly screams clean athlete .

Fair enough. This recent one was completely debunked/ exonerated.

Anyway, don't sleep on this guy - he is VERY good when in shape, which is mostly. When he gets his shot, a lot of pent up energy gonna come out. I REALLY REALLY hope he fights Wilder, that is an absolute mismatch mauling and most people don't seem to see that. Doubt Wilder takes it though, he is risk averse and will take the Fury 3 money and retire with some excuse. Spineless coward hype jib.

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Fair enough. This recent one was completely debunked/ exonerated.

Anyway, don't sleep on this guy - he is VERY good when in shape, which is mostly. When he gets his shot, a lot of pent up energy gonna come out. I REALLY REALLY hope he fights Wilder, that is an absolute mismatch mauling and most people don't seem to see that. Doubt Wilder takes it though, he is risk averse and will take the Fury 3 money and retire with some excuse. Spineless coward hype jib.

Iam a whyte fan myself he is fighting top fighters more so than any other guy in the top 10 and he is clearly avoided by wilder . Altho I can't hate wilder took a tougher fight so I commend him for that . I would never sleep on whyte hes a fighting man , he could have waited around for his shot but he fought top guys instead and I expect him to stretch povetkin . Iam excited to see how it plays out

[NORMNEALON]

Kownacki always throw an incredibly number of punches, nothing odd that he set a new record with someone like Arreola. Besides, look at him -- he is the last man who could be accused of anything; even fat Ruiz looks more athletic than Adam.
And suggesting that he might be a cheat because he is a friend of a cheat is just ******. He refused Joshua because of his pregnant wife.

Correct me if I am wrong here -- Whyte was banned a few years ago for cheating. Wilder was caught with narcotics once.

I was simply stating that in this day and age speculating anyone is on something isnt the most far off thing one could do . And altho he made some valid points that I added to it is all speculation . And I wont point my finger at any athlete until they fail a test . Whyte was banned as I stated in my post with someone else . Also wilder was caught with weed he didnt fail a drug test . Not that that is okay . Most of these guys are on something my man but again I wont point my finger until they fail a test and I certainly don't think fat guys coukdnt be juicing either.....that is also raw speculation.