I actually believe Wilders costume excuse!

[Gate keeper]

He carries 115lb up and down steps for 3 min sets as part of his training routine.

The excuse is BS.

That is a relatively disingenious statement. Pretty sure, carrying 115 lbs for 3 mins is a lot less work than carrying 45 pounds for 15 - 20 mins. Furthermore, you're also making the allusion that him training, as in working out before a 12 round fight, would not significantly affect his stamina in the fight. Which makes even less sense because if a training has so little effect on one's stamina, then why train that way.

As i said before, everyone keeps saying lifting 45 pounds is easy. That's not in dispute. Carrying an additional 45 pounds, mostly in your legs, for 15 - 20 mins and then walking around 200 ft during thst time is much more straining but still doable. The issue is doing all that and then starting a 12 round fight. For whatever reason people seem to have difficulty grasping that the 12 fight part is the part that's harder.

[Gate keeper]

Just take a look at the mans legs, you can tell he can’t handle 40 extra lbs. It may seem like a lame excuse but I believe he believes that’s what messed him up. But I also believe costume or not Fury was gonna KO him regardless just maybe not that soon

I've been saying it previously, i figured I'd be the last person on the planet to defend Wilder but his costume excuse is reasonable. If the costume really did weigh 45 pounds, a fifth of his bodyweight, and he really did have it on 10 - 15 mins before walking out, then it is basically impossible for it not have significantly affected his stamina. As much as i think Wilder was a paper champ and a fraud, there's simply no getting around the fact that the physical implications of his excuse are absolutely correct. People's criticism of his excuse are not based at all on science and physiology. It's like they don't want it to be true so therefore it must not be, that's not how science works.

[Robbie Barrett]

That is a relatively disingenious statement. Pretty sure, carrying 115 lbs for 3 mins is a lot less work than carrying 45 pounds for 15 - 20 mins. Furthermore, you're also making the allusion that him training, as in working out before a 12 round fight, would not significantly affect his stamina in the fight. Which makes even less sense because if a training has so little effect on one's stamina, then why train that way.

As i said before, everyone keeps saying lifting 45 pounds is easy. That's not in dispute. Carrying an additional 45 pounds, mostly in your legs, for 15 - 20 mins and then walking around 200 ft during thst time is much more straining but still doable. The issue is doing all that and then starting a 12 round fight. For whatever reason people seem to have difficulty grasping that the 12 fight part is the part that's harder.

The military carry 100lb backpacks miles.
Children in poor countries carry bi jugs of water miles.
A lot of americans walk around 40lb+ overweight all day.

Their legs don't break. You're talking nonsense.

Wilder is an athlete that trains every day.

[GGG Gloveking]

He'd never last at a moving company

[Gate keeper]

The military carry 100lb backpacks miles.
Children in poor countries carry bi jugs of water miles.
A lot of americans walk around 40lb+ overweight all day.

Their legs don't break. You're talking nonsense.

Wilder is an athlete that trains every day.

Not sure what your argumnent is here but anyone carrying a 100 pound back for miles would never have the stamina to immediately have a 12 round fight after, at least not a fair one if the other guy is energized. Perhaps your point is that such a feat is so much work that carrying 45 pounds for 20 mins should be nothing. However, the conclusion only seems that way on paper because you compared a medium to an extreme. In reality, carrying around a 5th of your bodyweight for 20 mins and walking around 200ft during that time is going to weaken your legs. It's not going to break them as in you can barely stand up, but it will take a few rounds out of them. Since we know too many high activity rounds can drain a fighters stamina too and make them tired, the only way what Wilder did cannot have had any significant effect on stamina is if each round on average requires many times more stamina than the single act of walking 200ft with 45 pound weight for 20 mins. That's is a mathematical impossibility.

And to your other points, any child carrying a 1/5 of their bodyweight for 20 mins would be at significant disadvantage vs another child who was energized. And anyone who walked all day non-stop and then started a 12 round fight would also be at a significant disadvantage. You all seem to be equating a significant loss of stamina with "can barely stand". Again that is just extreme used to try to prove a point. However, in actuality a significant loss of stamina can simply mean he has a few rounds less stamina than he would have had he not had an unintended workout before the fight.

I still think Fury would have schooled him either way and that the stamina issue only brought the inevitable a bit quicker. But i cannot pretend the feat as he described it is not capable of taking a few rounds out of you.

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The idea that an elite athlete like Wilder would 'lose his legs' after wearing a 40lb suit is just laughable I'm afraid.

This has turned Wilder into the world's biggest laughing stock.

He made a load of ridiculous excuses after he lost the first fight but they got forgotten about after all the drama.

This time it's gone viral and Wilders reputation will never ever recover.

[JohnCastellanos]

I've been saying it previously, i figured I'd be the last person on the planet to defend Wilder but his costume excuse is reasonable. If the costume really did weigh 45 pounds, a fifth of his bodyweight, and he really did have it on 10 - 15 mins before walking out, then it is basically impossible for it not have significantly affected his stamina. As much as i think Wilder was a paper champ and a fraud, there's simply no getting around the fact that the physical implications of his excuse are absolutely correct. People's criticism of his excuse are not based at all on science and physiology. It's like they don't want it to be true so therefore it must not be, that's not how science works.

Yeah the are just trying to take one more dig at a man that is already down. But I wanna say another thing that the weight of that 40 lbs suit is probably not distributed evenly and I’m surprised it didn’t throw his back out, not to mention it was probably hot AF and he probably couldn’t breathe regularly. The top boxers all have one thing in common before big fights: Look at them before any big fight and they are super relax and super chill! Wilder shot himself in the foot by adding pressure on himself and saying he had to win on Black history month. It was a noble thing for him to want to give his people a gift but it was unnecessary added pressure before a 50/50 fight and the suit thing just messed everything up. Mentally he must have been a mess stepping into that ring!

[True That]

The military carry 100lb backpacks miles.
Children in poor countries carry bi jugs of water miles.
A lot of americans walk around 40lb+ overweight all day.

Their legs don't break. You're talking nonsense.

Wilder is an athlete that trains every day.

Think about this too, Wilder said that when he got to the ring that he knew his legs were done. But yet he had "zero" problems walking over the top ropes to enter the ring. If his legs were supposedly so weak from the heavy burden of the costume he wouldn't have been able to walk over the top rope with no issues.

[-Kev-]

Yes, anyone who has worked out by putting an extra 40lbs on themselves with a weight vest would know, but you gotta understand a lot of these guys are couch potatoes. They don’t know what working out is.

With that said, it’s not if it’s true or false, it’s actually saying it that is ****** and unprofessional. Just keep that excuse to yourself because it does “sound” silly. It’s worse than Haye’s toe excuse, which he had photographic evidence of his toe being injured, but the excuse was still ridiculed.

You just don’t go around saying such an excuse.

[Zoffeler]

Wilder has got foot-in-mouth disease, watch this video here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comm...n_a_45lb_vest/

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