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  • #81
    Originally posted by Ritz Kola View Post
    I gave Fury his props. Fought him twice and drastically improved because of it. Still #BOMBSQUAD my guy just needs to take it as serious as Fury CLEARLY did for the rematch. We've never seen fury the way he was in that 2nd fight. Wilder helped Fury become Fury 2.0 and hopefully this loss will help Wilder become Wilder 2.0.
    Wilder is going to come out guns blazing, throwing caution to the wind. Looking for the kill with every shot.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
      Wilder is going to come out guns blazing, throwing caution to the wind. Looking for the kill with every shot.

      Would've been better than trying to outbox fury like he tried in the rematch. I hope he takes up Floyd's offer to train him. Put the pride to the side a bit.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Ritz Kola View Post
        Would've been better than trying to outbox fury like he tried in the rematch. I hope he takes up Floyd's offer to train him. Put the pride to the side a bit.

        It would be interesting if he does try to add some skillsets and fundamentals but I think far more impactful would be simply to go on the offensive and swing for the fences.

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        • #84
          Are we talking on ability or acheivement?

          Ability
          1. Fury
          2. Usyk
          3. Joshua
          4. Hrgovic
          5. Dubois

          Acheivement
          1. Fury
          2. Joshua
          3. Wilder
          4. Ruiz, Jr.
          5. Whyte

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          • #85
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post

            It would be interesting if he does try to add some skillsets and fundamentals but I think far more impactful would be simply to go on the offensive and swing for the fences.
            That's not the way to fight Fury. Most impactful way to go about the trilogy is to add more tools to the toolbox. Fury did it for the rematch: that was a brand-new Fury never seen before. Wilder needs to become something we've never seen before to keep up. He used to Box better coming up. Ive seen all his fights a few times. It' his corner that held him back, namely Jay Deas. Guy don't belong there.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Ritz Kola View Post
              That's not the way to fight Fury. Most impactful way to go about the trilogy is to add more tools to the toolbox. Fury did it for the rematch: that was a brand-new Fury never seen before. Wilder needs to become something we've never seen before to keep up. He used to Box better coming up. Ive seen all his fights a few times. It' his corner that held him back, namely Jay Deas. Guy don't belong there.

              To be fair Fury improved his 1-2 form and sits down on his jobs more in true Kronk form, but he could always **** inside, hes done it before.

              I think Wilder stands a better chance at taking Fury out if he comes out aggressively than if he tries to box, or add something new. For one, when you learn something new, when you get into trouble, you fall back on what you know, Wilder will **** it out anyway when Fury drops him again. Second, Fury can easily box him from the outside, Wilder has better odds forcing a war where he can catch Fury in exchanges.

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              • #87
                1. Fury
                2. AJ
                3. Wilder
                4. Povetkin
                5. Parker
                6. Ruiz Jr
                7. Pulev
                8. Whyte
                9. Hunter
                10. Chisora

                Notes:

                - I can't include Usyk after one HW win against a last-minute replacement
                - AJ gets the nod ahead of Wilder because he has come back and avenged his single loss - Wilder is a wait and see
                - Michael Hunter deserves a little love
                - Chisora gets the nod at 10 because I think, right now, he beats all of the guys knocking on the door of the top 10 ie Joyce, Dubois. Those guys will have their time.
                - Luis Ortiz is done
                - Whyte is too hard to gauge - how much of what he's done has been because of juicing?

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post

                  To be fair Fury improved his 1-2 form and sits down on his jobs more in true Kronk form, but he could always **** inside, hes done it before.

                  I think Wilder stands a better chance at taking Fury out if he comes out aggressively than if he tries to box, or add something new. For one, when you learn something new, when you get into trouble, you fall back on what you know, Wilder will **** it out anyway when Fury drops him again. Second, Fury can easily box him from the outside, Wilder has better odds forcing a war where he can catch Fury in exchanges.
                  I agree. I wasn't insinuating Wilder try to outbox Fury, more so that he get with Floyd to improve his Defense in-ring. Yeah Fury has ****** but never like that. Wilder trying to outbox a newly aggressive Fury- but utilizing ZERO defense is what cost him. I was yelling keep your hands up from round 1. It looked like he was trying to time and counter Fury but he was doing it with his hands down + not considering Fury's reach advantage which = Wilder being wide open while leaning back but still in range. He ironically was putting himself in sweet spot territory for Fury's punches. Defensive responsibility is what I want him to improve on, as well as throwing uppercuts. So many missed opportunities.

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                  • #89
                    Joshua
                    Whyte
                    Dubois
                    Parker
                    Joyce

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by EDDIE SPERM View Post
                      Fury
                      Joshua
                      Ruiz
                      Deontay
                      Dillian
                      King Kong
                      Pulev
                      Rivas
                      Povetkin
                      Usyk
                      Rivas above Usyk?
                      AJ above Wilder?

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