Lets be honest...Wilder needs to move on from Fury

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  • hugh grant
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    #31
    These 2 excellent heavyweights i m sure would always have entertain ing fights against each other. But wilder must know everyone thinks he's lost both now.
    By all means fight fury again, but not next fight. We'd like to see wilder v ruiz. Wilder v usyk. Wilder v white also. Just make sure fury gives you rematch oneday

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    • KingOfGlory
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      #32
      I'd rather see a Wallin rematch than a Wilder rematch at this point.

      Even if Fury wrecked him again in a third fight Wilder would have a new grocery list of excuses.

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      • dibzvincent143
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        #33
        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        He should but will he avoid it?

        It’s really hard because you need to save face after something like that. People’s estimation and perception of him will go down further if it looks like he accepts he can’t win it and ducks it.

        Especially seeing as AJ did the immediate one with Ruiz, it might pressure Wilder into feeling he has to do it

        It’s a tricky situation. Especially seeing as he will get beaten up again.

        I think if it’s only him he doesn’t want to...but everybody on his team expects him to, haymon expects him to.. most of his delusional fans expect him to.. so the pressure will be too great for him to refuse even if he’s not right yet mentally for it.. none of them is really looking out for him... his corner wasn’t even asking him if he’s okay between rounds.. look at the shltshow going on there now..

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        • deathofaclown
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          #34
          Originally posted by dibzvincent143
          I think if it’s only him he doesn’t want to...but everybody on his team expects him to, haymon expects him to.. most of his delusional fans expect him to.. so the pressure will be too great for him to refuse even if he’s not right yet mentally for it.. none of them is really looking out for him... his corner wasn’t even asking him if he’s okay between rounds.. look at the shltshow going on there now..
          Indeed.

          And really, the money men behind the fighters don’t care about the fighter as much as the money.

          Wilder’s managers/advisors will be questioning if Wilder will ever be the same again. There’s a possibility he goes into a tune up/comeback fight on a PBC card that generates a small revenue and he gets smoked because he’s done...or they can put him in with Fury, make another boat load of money and risk him being smoked again, which is likely.

          If you had money invested in someone, which option are you going to push for? It’s an easy choice. It’s not like he’s a young prospect that can be built up again with time.

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          • REdrUm0351
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            #35
            We cannot say he was all hype it takes away from Furys victory. On top of that Wilder is still top 3 in the division. We need to see him against Whyte and Joshua to gauge him. Even though Joshuas hard to gauge because of the version of Ruiz he beat to get back into it. Wilder mentally may never be the same fighter.

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            • andocom
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              #36
              To me this is quite a bit different to Joshua's lose to Ruiz, firstly Joshua dropped Ruiz went for the kill got clipped and never recovered. But anyone with any brains could see an obvious path to victory for Joshua in a rematch, starting with don't stand and trade with the guy with faster hands and good combinations. Even without the transformation, dropping as much weight as he did etc, if he just stuck behind the jab and fought tall the path was there for him.

              For Wilder though, this isn't even the rematch, this is the rematch of the rematch and lets face it Wilder should have lost the first, got absolutely battered in the second and even if the punch that dropped him the first time missed there were plenty more coming that Wilder couldn't deal with.

              Wilders going a third time in with a bigger better boxer, who is more likely to be able to implement changes, will have the mental edge, good luck. The business case is obvious, the competitive case makes less sense, what is his path to victory, a lucky punch or a Fury coke & hooker binge, and I kinda think the latter is his best chance at this point.

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