Wilder/Fury 2: Let's take a moment to celebrate the REAL hero: Harold Sconiers.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    Wilder/Fury 2: Let's take a moment to celebrate the REAL hero: Harold Sconiers.

    Harold Sconiers.

    The man who made history by being the first to drop Deontay Wilder as a pro. He's the real unsung hero here - since they did everything they could to remove fan footage of it from the web and even had PBC claiming he'd never been dropped. Just completely deleting the guy's accomplishment.

    Sconiers would proceed to get stopped. But his moment must be remembered as Wilder's 'first'.

    Previously posted on 11/25/2017: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=765587

    • Fight was on the undercard of Perez vs. Salcido, a Golden Boy Promotions card.
    • Many of the undercard fights were not televised due to agreements with the other promoter, Thompson Boxing Promotions.
    • Any footage of Wilder/Sconiers would have to have been filmed in the arena. The venue (Fantasy Springs Casino) took photos but not film. Solo Boxeo only filmed the main event.


    In other words no conspiracy. It isn't just that fight you can't find, you can't find any of the non-televised fights. So I suspect Thompson is the one blocking footage. No evidence.

    Anyway...

    Wilder said he was rabbit punched. Whether he was or wasn't, that wasn't the knockdown moment. As near as I can tell, this is when he got a bit stunned, when Sconiers threw a Bradley/Vargas-ish haymaker that landed outside the guard:



    That punch didn't drop him, but seemed to knock Wilder out of whack a bit. Wilder threw a sequence, then he did exactly what Teddy Atlas says he always does with the sleep walking pose when trying to get out of range of a countershot:



    This photo, as near as I can tell, shows the exact moment seconds before the knockdown. Sconiers landed a hard, flush uppercut right at the bell. Part of it was balance because of Wilder's position, but he wasn't protecting himself either.



    Apparently, he was saved by the bell (I haven't seen them implement that rule in years), but extremely wobbly and shaky getting up and going back to the corner. The corner was able to calm him down and get him back stable. But it was universally accepted that had that knockdown occurred earlier in the round, Wilder might have been stopped. By this journeyman.

    I submit that there will never be footage released on DVD of this fight, because there was never any professional footage shot. I have no proof of this claim, but it's extremely unlikely.
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    With Keef cutting an interview claiming Fury was the first, this history must be bumped, so people remember the truth.

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