Why is Wilder trying to make this about race??

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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #31
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Who cares, he has fought like 40 bums, way past their prime fighters, non punchers and maybe like 3 actual threats on his record.

    Then you have Fury with his one noteworthy win against old Wlad.

    Its not about race, its about seeing which mediocre hypejob is the best in a sorry hw division.
    I don't like or follow the heavyweight division, but I completely agree with you on the bold.

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    • AlexKid
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      #32
      Theres a ton of racism aka sports teams the black and white team, and who you are identified with, and draw your self esteem from, its about selling tickets , they dont need to do it , fight speaks for itself.

      If it is a racist thing then its the usual who has the bigger ****, brain, punch, and strength etc routine, we want to feel good via validation seeking its natural to do it in a win lose way but there are smarter ways to do it, to get your self worth or that feeling of being good enough

      (we are all imperfect and trying to be perfect or really fcuking good, only a minority of people as a % are really good, and they have flaws too and many of them even feel not so great or incomplete )

      Its like an important area to address and get skilled with in psychology , understand the dynamic and how you can get the good feeling wo sh,itting on ppl or yourself.

      You see incredible people going down in the history books doing it, its such an absurd and unreasonable part of our psychology , definitely worth researching and understanding, so you dont fall victim to it.
      Last edited by AlexKid; 02-20-2020, 12:05 AM.

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      • AlexKid
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        #33
        I think just understanding the dynamic alone helps, so you can see above it from the top down instead of just being in it and doing it. That alone feels good.

        Then im sure there are ways to think that are more realistic less negative or focused on 1 negative thing (e.g. see their negative traits too not just their positive traits that you dont have) Also see your whole self in an overall way and theirs. See where you truly fit in vs others in an overall way. Also see perfect vs average vs good not just black and white perfect or 5hit.

        Or find ways to get self esteem not based on genetics like being good kind or achieving something , gets you self worth in a way thats controllable, but relying on being better looking than others when you are not is not such a great strategy for self worth.

        You can also feel good in a way that relies on no one ie meditation once you feel happy its like being validated wo needing to be good at anything , but you have to remember to meditate instead of boosting your self up the usual way which is what you will naturally go towards doing

        Thats what I can think of off the top of my head but since people are obviously massively affected on a large scale this is a great area to delve into, its very pertinent to you feeling good in life also.

        Its strange we dont learn important things like this early on in life instead of having to figure it out later, you would have thought the essential bits of knowledge would be more well known to everyone
        Last edited by AlexKid; 02-20-2020, 12:20 AM.

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        • AlexKid
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          #34
          I think alot of racism is just hurt people trying to feel worthy, if you could give people information on how to feel high self esteem, their would be alot less racism, which i think is not the real core of the issue, racism is like a side note of whats really going on and its not truly racism its a fight for self worth , self esteem.

          But there's no need to squabble for it if you get knowledgeable in this particular area, and squabbling for it sucks, unless you are awesome in all areas
          Last edited by AlexKid; 02-20-2020, 12:35 AM.

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          • AlexKid
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            #35
            Its crazy also how you can read an entire book on self esteem and not get self esteem, but it could all be explained in a leaflet and ud get it, if you read and did what it says on the leaflet, so much info is in-concise, impotent and expansive.

            A book is broad as fcuk, has massive involvement needed form you, and the content is usually crap, expansive, impotent information
            Last edited by AlexKid; 02-20-2020, 12:42 AM.

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #36
              Originally posted by Mr Giggles
              Is he trying to start some kind of race war?! I was very uncomfortable with his comments. Fury then tried to calm the situation and say it’s not about race and wilder was shaking his finger as it to say it is about race.

              It’s a boxing fight ffs, what’s his problem.
              Unf that's the mindset of a lot of black Americans who were still raised in old values.

              This is 2020 and we need to leave that sh@t behind us.

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              • boxinggod101
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                #37
                Originally posted by Robi13
                Hit the spot huh?
                Right on the sweet spot. Black and brown obviously cant be racist... Duh!!!

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                • Rustyman
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                  Unf that's the mindset of a lot of black Americans who were still raised in old values.

                  This is 2020 and we need to leave that sh@t behind us.
                  Absolutely! Despite the inequalities in society, we need to seek to move forward. History is to be remembered, valued, but not to be wallowed as an excuse for current behaviour.

                  The sins of the past does not excuse the sins of the presence. That's how genocide is justified.

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                  • Motofan
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                    #39
                    These two seem to actually really like each other if anyone bothers to pay the slightest bit of attention. Neither guy comes off as racist. Just two guys who fancy themselves talkers.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by larryx...
                      yea, but that is what sells it
                      Nope at all, what sells it is that both are undefeated, Fury beats Klit and Wilder is one of the highest, if not the highest KO ratio all time.

                      That's what sells the fight.

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