Canelo-BJS “95%” done

[Ray*]

The terms for BJS haven't even been announced or finalized yet you post they got something better. GTFOH with that premature ejaculatory BS.

Callum didn't negotiate so don't give credit when none is deserved. You have no idea if PBC negotiated or not because there is no evidence any offer was made to Charlo from Canelo.

Charlo did reject Andrade, which is the same thing Smith did with Canelo so stop the BS about what PBC would or wouldn't do.

I know it hurts you. The only way BJS would have accept the next offer is if it’s better. Again they were willing to negotiate, none of those “You *****” none of those send the offer to me or the pentagon that we hear from PBC.

Good luck to Charlo for rejecting the Andrade offer, that’s great right? I mean he has plenty of unification options right? Yep Smith reject the offer and now he gets to watch someone else take the fight...... Am glad he got burnt, no one is here defending that business model doe, but you here again defending PBC business model... Great boxing fan

[The Big Dunn]

I know it hurts you. The only way BJS would have accept the next offer is if it’s better. Again they were willing to negotiate, none of those “You *****” none of those send the offer to me or the pentagon that we hear from PBC.

Good luck to Charlo for rejecting the Andrade offer, that’s great right? I mean he has plenty of unification options right? Yep Smith reject the offer and now he gets to watch someone else take the fight...... Am glad he got burnt, no one is here defending that business model doe, but you here again defending PBC business model... Great boxing fan

At least wait until you hear the offer is finalized before posting this. I remind you Murata/Canelo wa s"almost done", until it wasn't. That is all I am saying.

No, It's not great that he rejecetd the fight. It's also not great that dazn will not match him with GGG or Canelo. It sucks that no one will fight Andrade because he is a tough, awkward southpaw. Blame everyone, not just PBC.

Yes, I am a great boxing fan and have been one for over 35 years. What you claim to be the "pbc model" is what Smith used and he isn't with PBC. My point is everyone is using that model yet you only complain when a PBC guy does it.

[Ray*]

At least wait until you hear the offer is finalized before posting this. I remind you Murata/Canelo wa s"almost done", until it wasn't. That is all I am saying.

No you don’t get it. It doesn’t matter if they don’t come to an agreement. Canelo cannot fight everyone on the same night. He is the cash cow. Everyone else waits for him. He takes his pick. So it doesn’t matter if it’s Smith, BJS, Murata or anyone else. Fact was they are all willing to sit down and negotiate, this is something PBC are NOT willing to do. You can lie to yourself, try the little deflecting tactics (Which makes zero sense) about Andrade and Canelo.

Fact is Canelo picks and choose who he wants, now he has decided to fight at 168 not 160, so boxers at 160 need to get off their feet and fight each other, if GGG doesn’t want to fight Andrade then cut his pay (Am sure DAZN doesn’t have that power to force GGG or Canelo due to their contracts).

[The Big Dunn]

No you don’t get it. It doesn’t matter if they don’t come to an agreement. Canelo cannot fight everyone on the same night. He is the cash cow. Everyone else waits for him. He takes his pick. So it doesn’t matter if it’s Smith, BJS, Murata or anyone else. Fact was they are all willing to sit down and negotiate, this is something PBC are NOT willing to do. You can lie to yourself, try the little deflecting tactics (Which makes zero sense) about Andrade and Canelo.

Fact is Canelo picks and choose who he wants, now he has decided to fight at 168 not 160, so boxers at 160 need to get off their feet and fight each other, if GGG doesn’t want to fight Andrade then cut his pay (Am sure DAZN doesn’t have that power to force GGG or Canelo due to their contracts).

Charlo rejected Andrade same as Smith rejected Canelo, without any negotiation. Call them both out for it, not just PBC.

I am sure PBC negotiates all the time. What Haymon doesn't do is negotiate through the media like ODH does. WHy are you giving ODH credit for that?

[Ray*]

Charlo rejected Andrade same as Smith rejected Canelo, without any negotiation. Call them both out for it, not just PBC.

No Smith was actually negotiating, they didn’t stay silent and then go on social media rant two weeks later. The difference here is Canelo has options, he doesn’t need BJS, Murata or Smith.

Andrade isn’t the clear A-side like Canelo is, he doesn’t have 2/3 Smith, Murata or BJS, I notice you PBC fangirls have been trying to pin everyone together, to make it look like everyone is doing the same shit as PBC.

It’s 😂 laughable that you are adamant that Smith wasn’t negotiating when his team claimed they are even after rejecting the first offer. We definitely know Charlo was negotiating.

[The Big Dunn]

No Smith was actually negotiating, they didn’t stay silent and then go on social media rant two weeks later. The difference here is Canelo has options, he doesn’t need BJS, Murata or Smith.

Andrade isn’t the clear A-side like Canelo is, he doesn’t have 2/3 Smith, Murata or BJS, I notice you PBC fangirls have been trying to pin everyone together, to make it look like everyone is doing the same shit as PBC.

It’s 😂 laughable that you are adamant that Smith wasn’t negotiating when his team claimed they are even after rejecting the first offer. We definitely know Charlo was negotiating.

We know they didn't negotiate for Andrade only. That doesn't mean they don't negotiate in every situation.

I am sure PBC negotiates all the time. What Haymon doesn't do is negotiate through the media like ODH does. WHy are you giving ODH credit for that?

[Ray*]

We know they didn't negotiate for Andrade only. That doesn't mean they don't negotiate in every situation.

I am sure PBC negotiates all the time. What Haymon doesn't do is negotiate through the media like ODH does. WHy are you giving ODH credit for that?

Yeah they negotiate within their own island. Haymon doesn’t do a lot through the media, his boxers does and that doesn’t mean he is exempt from scrutiny. His business model speaks for itself. I actually like transparency, than someone that is silent like they have things to hide. I prefer someone that can complicate themselves, than one that either stays silent or hide.

[emceetns]

Callum Smith was smart not to take a bad offer.

Whether an offer is "good" or "bad" is relative. If Smith goes on to have a John Ryder-like slip up and lose for a fraction of the money then he might regret passing on the Canelo opportunity.

[DaNeutral.]

This is such BS. Smith didn't negotiate, he flat out rejected. BJS also ejected. The only reason they went back to BJS is the plan to offer Plant got blown up before it was made.

You are crediting them for "negotiating" when in fact they went back because they had no place else to go, other than offer the fight to Andrade which they aren't trying to do, or make GGG/canelo 3, which they want to save until September 2020.

Why do you keep talking about Andrade and GGG when Canelo is clearly concentrating on 168 cuz of all the offers going out to 168 fighters and not middles.

Plant said he was guna wait until canelo ended his fight contract. That's 8 fights. Smith didn't accept the money, neither did BJS and a better deal has been offered. BIG difference between them and Plant doing that same old PBC thing.

[Ray*]

Whether an offer is "good" or "bad" is relative. If Smith goes on to have a John Ryder-like slip up and lose for a fraction of the money then he might regret passing on the Canelo opportunity.

He is an idiot, his manager was on TV crying and them being over looked recently. You don’t need to risk anything once you getting an offer from the guy, as long as the rehydration clause, gloves, ring, drug testing are on point then don’t let the money be an issue.

I guess if he gets the next call for September then we would have the “He made more 4 months later” from the usual suspects.