PLANT Admits HE’s NOT READY for Canelo, even doe FEIGENBUTZ did nothing!

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #11
    Originally posted by Street15
    1) I'm not sure why you mentioned PBC. I surely didn't mention it. I'm strictly talking about fighters themselves.

    2) He didn't get hurt against Feigen at all. That doesn't negate having a grueling 3 month training camp. If he wants to be 100% prepared and rested against one of the best in the business, I don't blame him one bit.,.
    Dude, Plant brags that he makes weight easily. “Grueling?”

    Plant brags that SNAC is the best thing ever... lol... the fact that we are contextualizing Lee to Feigenbutz.

    Whatever, the energy from the video and my points clearly shows he’s just a Haymon bot. Not daring to be great.

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    • Street15
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      #12
      Originally posted by Young Bidness
      Dude, Plant brags that he makes weight easily. “Grueling?”

      Plant brags that SNAC is the best thing ever... lol... the fact that we are contextualizing Lee to Feigenbutz.

      Whatever, the energy from the video and my points clearly shows he’s just a Haymon bot. Not daring to be great.
      Okay. He makes weight easily. That doesn't mean training camp doesn't take a toll on a fighter's body. Making weight is only PART of training camp, for most.

      Him bragging about SNAC has nothing to do with the (3) month training camp and the stress it puts on your body.

      I'm still not even mentioning PBC or any other promotional banner. I'm strictly talking about the fighters themselves.

      If you consider him not "daring to be great" at this time, then so be it. If there was no one to unify with and if he was constantly coming up with excuses to not fight certain mandatories, then I'd really question Caleb.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Street15
        Okay. He makes weight easily. That doesn't mean training camp doesn't take a toll on a fighter's body. Making weight is only PART of training camp, for most.

        Him bragging about SNAC has nothing to do with the (3) month training camp and the stress it puts on your body.

        I'm still not even mentioning PBC or any other promotional banner. I'm strictly talking about the fighters themselves.

        If you consider him not "daring to be great" at this time, then so be it. If there was no one to unify with and if he was constantly coming up with excuses to not fight certain mandatories, then I'd really question Caleb.
        I don’t think you understand how boxing works my friend. The context of “tolls” is usually reserved for TOUGH FIGHTS. Not all boxers have the luxury to train at SNAC. Then there’s the factor of fight week where boxers are calibrated a limit with water up to the weigh in. That week, for fighters having trouble to make, is abrupt after a long camp. And then you have to factor in a tough fight. None of this is the case

        Do you seriously believe Plant, and bragging that Feigenbutz wasn’t on his level, that he the SNAC gym prepared him gruesomely for the German?

        Call a spade a spade. He’s ducking Canelo.

        We’re not talking about a scenario of Mikey Garcia having trained at SNAC to then get a beating by Spence.

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          #14
          The PBC fighters have blacklisted Alvarez like they did Pac when he was with Top Rank. Alvarez will have to pay Smith, Murata, or Saunders the money they want.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Young Bidness
            boliodogs The Big Dunn

            You guys still want to question offers when Plant just admitted it?
            At the time I said he had not been offered a Cnelo fight he had not been offered any Canelo fight. I can only go by what I read and hear from reliable sources and you are as unreliable source as is possible to be. When the figt is over I leave. I don't watch a one hour after the fight meeting. I have still read or heard nothing of an offer to Plant to fight Canelo. Since you think you are this big fuyging expert who knows everything about everything please tell me all about this offer you claim Canelo made to Plant to fight him in May. How much money was Plant supposed to get and where was te fight supposed to be? If you can't tell me this then eat sh it and go to hell, Canelo ass kisser.

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            • Street15
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              #16
              Originally posted by Young Bidness
              I don’t think you understand how boxing works my friend. The context of “tolls” is usually reserved for TOUGH FIGHTS. Not all boxers have the luxury to train at SNAC. Then there’s the factor of fight week where boxers are calibrated a limit with water up to the weigh in. That week, for fighters having trouble to make, is abrupt after a long camp. And then you have to factor in a tough fight. None of this is the case

              Do you seriously believe Plant, and bragging that Feigenbutz wasn’t on his level, that he the SNAC gym prepared him gruesomely for the German?

              Call a spade a spade. He’s ducking Canelo.

              We’re not talking about a scenario of Mikey Garcia having trained at SNAC to then get a beating by Spence.
              I'm not subscribing to the theory that "tolls" ONLY pertains to the fights themselves. (absolute statement that I don't agree with). If that was the case, these fighters wouldn't always talk about the rigors of training camp. I've heard interviews from Loma, Floyd, Lara, Trout (in particular) that fights are the easy part. The training camps are what wears them down. So when boxers speak on the demands their body goes through as it pertains to training camp, I side with them. That's just me.

              A boxer bragging about someone that isn't on his level has nothing to do with what they put their bodies through in training camp. Just because you think someone isn't on your level, doesn't have to mean you don't take training/preparation seriously. Absolute statements diminish your argument.

              Bottom line: if a fighter wants to go into training camp at 100% (and this just so happens to be against an all time great in Canelo) then I don't blame him one bit. If a fighter feels he needs more than a 30 day rest, then I don't blame him. Who am I to sit up here and tell a fighter what he needs in order to be at 100%. And if they aren't able to do that, and have to ultimately turn down a fight because of that (regardless of the money or star status of the opponent), you are well within your right to call him anything you want. You can call him a duck, coward, smart, someone who operates on their own time, scared, etc, etc, etc. Have a blast with that.

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #17
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                At the time I said he had not been offered a Cnelo fight he had not been offered any Canelo fight. .
                Dude you’re a coward. You questioned knowing industry had verified that Plant was offered too. There threads about it, yet you say “your hero Canelo.” Fug outta here kid

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                  The PBC fighters have blacklisted Alvarez like they did Pac when he was with Top Rank. Alvarez will have to pay Smith, Murata, or Saunders the money they want.
                  How is that the same? What offers did Pac TR send to PBC fighters with a narrative they were all “ducking Pac?”

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Street15
                    I'm not subscribing to the theory that "tolls" ONLY pertains to the fights themselves. (absolute statement that I don't agree with). If that was the case, these fighters wouldn't always talk about the rigors of training camp. I've heard interviews from Loma, Floyd, Lara, Trout (in particular) that fights are the easy part. The training camps are what wears them down. So when boxers speak on the demands their body goes through as it pertains to training camp, I side with them. That's just me.

                    A boxer bragging about someone that isn't on his level has nothing to do with what they put their bodies through in training camp. Just because you think someone isn't on your level, doesn't have to mean you don't take training/preparation seriously. Absolute statements diminish your argument.

                    Bottom line: if a fighter wants to go into training camp at 100% (and this just so happens to be against an all time great in Canelo) then I don't blame him one bit. If a fighter feels he needs more than a 30 day rest, then I don't blame him. Who am I to sit up here and tell a fighter what he needs in order to be at 100%. And if they aren't able to do that, and have to ultimately turn down a fight because of that (regardless of the money or star status of the opponent), you are well within your right to call him anything you want. You can call him a duck, coward, smart, someone who operates on their own time, scared, etc, etc, etc. Have a blast with that.
                    If you want to believe Plant fine... the momentum of his “long training” for a fight where he just sparred assures he’s good to go in May. You’re better off addressing the politics, I’ll buy that...

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                    • Mister Wolf
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Young Bidness
                      How is that the same? What offers did Pac TR send to PBC fighters with a narrative they were all “ducking Pac?”
                      They sent offers to Thurman, Broner, and Danny Garcia.
                      They offered Broner the same as what he got fighting Pac on PBC. He probably could have negotiated for more since he wasn't a has been at that point.

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