Usyk has a greater Cruiserweight career than Holyfield.

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  • Thraxox
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    Usyk has a greater Cruiserweight career than Holyfield.

    Usyk's opponents during his cruiserweight run and what they did after. ( only counting during Usyk's championship.)

    Glowacki - 26-0 WBO Cruiserweight Champ
    Breidis - 23 - 0 - 1 WBC Cruiswerweight champ
    Marco Huck - 40-4-1 Former WBC Cruiserweight champ
    Tony Bellew - 30-2-1 Former WBC Cruiserweight Champ
    Micheal Hunter - 12-0 No.1 WBA Contender
    Murat Gassiev - 26-0 IBF and WBA Cruiserweight Champ

    Evander Holyfield ( Only countring during Holyfield's championship)

    Ossie Ocasio - 21-4, ended his career with 23-13 WBA Cruiserweight Champ
    Carlos De Leon - 44-4 Holyfield's best win in cruiserweight ended at 53-8-1 WBC & Lineal Champ
    Rickey Parkey-- 20-5 ended his career at 22-20 IBF Cruiswerweight champ
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi - 26-2-1. WBA Cruiswerweight champ.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Thraxox
    Usyk's opponents during his cruiserweight run and what they did after. ( only counting during Usyk's championship.)

    Glowacki - 26-0 WBO Cruiserweight Champ
    Breidis - 23 - 0 - 1 WBC Cruiswerweight champ
    Marco Huck - 40-4-1 Former WBC Cruiserweight champ
    Tony Bellew - 30-2-1 Former WBC Cruiserweight Champ
    Micheal Hunter - 12-0 No.1 WBA Contender
    Murat Gassiev - 26-0 IBF and WBA Cruiserweight Champ

    Evander Holyfield ( Only countring during Holyfield's championship)

    Ossie Ocasio - 21-4, ended his career with 23-13 WBA Cruiserweight Champ
    Carlos De Leon - 44-4 Holyfield's best win in cruiserweight ended at 53-8-1 WBC & Lineal Champ
    Rickey Parkey-- 20-5 ended his career at 22-20 IBF Cruiswerweight champ
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi - 26-2-1. WBA Cruiswerweight champ.
    the Qawi he beat is a hall of famer

    De Leon is a 3 time champion

    its debatable at best

    Im going with Holyfield

    Qawi mops the floor with everyone Uysk fought frfr

    quality>quantity

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      #3
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      the Qawi he beat is a hall of famer

      De Leon is a 3 time champion

      its debatable at best

      Im going with Holyfield

      Qawi mops the floor with everyone Uysk fought frfr

      quality>quantity
      Qawi was 5'7 a midget, he will get destroyed by the much bigger Murat Gassiev, De Leon was not anything especial. It's funny when you say Quality over quantity when Usyk has both, his quality of opponents far exceeded Holyfrield's with the exception of Muhammad and De Leon only.

      And also Marco Huck was the longest reigning cruiswerweight champ in history. And fought EVERYONE in their own backyard.
      Last edited by Thraxox; 02-11-2020, 11:49 AM.

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        Evander was 7-0 at cruiser, Usyk is 17-0. I think Qawi being the best guy both fought. That was also a 15 round fight which Holyfield deserves some extra credit for.

        In the end, Usyk not only cleaned out cruiser by beating all of the top 5 guys other than himself, he also had more fights than Holyfield at cruiser.

        I think giving him the nod is reasonable.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Thraxox
          Qawi was 5'7 a midget, he will get destroyed by the much bigger Murat Gassiev, De Leon was not anything especial. It's funny when you say Quality over quantity when Usyk has both, his quality of opponents far exceeded Holyfrield's with the exception of Muhammad and De Leon only.

          And also Marco Huck was the longest reigning cruiswerweight champ in history. And fought EVERYONE in their own backyard.
          Lmfao. You must be salty over people saying Usyk is overrated, which I don’t believe he is. To say what you said though is just hands down one of the dumbest things I’ve read here since the beginning. Qawi chops up every Usyk opponent with ease and most likely Usyk himself. They would be one sided bloodbaths.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Thraxox
            Qawi was 5'7 a midget, he will get destroyed by the much bigger Murat Gassiev, De Leon was not anything especial. It's funny when you say Quality over quantity when Usyk has both, his quality of opponents far exceeded Holyfrield's with the exception of Muhammad and De Leon only.

            And also Marco Huck was the longest reigning cruiswerweight champ in history. And fought EVERYONE in their own backyard.
            you obviously never watched him fight.....height doesnt make you a good fighter or bad one


            he was a former light heavyweight champion, beat the breaks of hall of famer Matthew Saad Muhammad, went 12 tough rounds with another hall of famer in Michael Spinks, and fought as high as heavyweight, even went rounds with Foreman so him getting destroyed by those guys is highly unlikely given he has been in there with more talented fighters than those guys

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            • TheMyspaceDayz
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              #7
              ^^^^

              Ehhhh, 1 minute apart. We Voltron’d that chit

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                #8
                Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                Lmfao. You must be salty over people saying Usyk is overrated, which I don’t believe he is. To say what you said though is just hands down one of the dumbest things I’ve read here since the beginning. Qawi chops up every Usyk opponent with ease and most likely Usyk himself. They would be one sided bloodbaths.
                the bolded lets you know he hasnt seen the man fight or who he fought

                they didnt call him the camden buzzsaw for nothing

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                  ^^^^

                  Ehhhh, 1 minute apart. We Voltron’d that chit
                  i was like this man is nuts to caught my attention immediately

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                    Holyfield didn't stay a cruiserweight as long and the weight limit then was 190 not 200. The world's heavyweight title is a much bigger prize and Holyfield won that which Usyk has yet to do. In my opinion Holyfield would beat Usyk at any weight.

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