Deontay Wilder can't beat Tyson Fury

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  • jsmith_tsu
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    #31
    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    that's not true at all, everybody spreading this around, but a KD give you 1 point PERIOD
    not 2, it's not a guaranteed 10-8, you have to win the round to get the second point, otherwise it's a 9-9 rounds.

    And the fact that Wilder won the 9th and the 12th is debatable.
    Because Tyson went back from the KD to boxes his ear off again.

    TBH I just rewatched this fight today.

    There is version without commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7k_JcxW01Q

    Wilder got outboxed Silly, it's just embarrassing to him.

    The KDs saved his honour, because it was a schooling through 36 minutes on his own home soil.

    His team celebrated the draw, and hell, they should...
    After seeing my math mistake, I believe draw was right decision. At the end of the day I see Wilder ko Fury this time.

    Wilder has enough ring iq to adjust to what he saw the first time

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    • TheUptownKid
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      #32
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Just reading some of the comments on the video that you posted, apparently PBC silence the sound of Fury’s punches, made Wilder’s punches sound louder, then silent Paulie M commentary of the fight. One poster said he messages them after watching their version of the video, they then deleted it and re-upload with a new version. They did that to place the narrative that Wilder won. No wonder some of the posters on here are so into PBC/Haymon, that man is a genius. They would march like soldiers to heaven for him. I don’t blame them, the man went to Harvard I heard, and most of them.... Well
      Are people actually fans of promoters? Is this really a thing now? Or is it a thing like all of those “urban kids” meaning the black kids? I like boxers and definitely not promoters. If you’re a fan of a promoter you’re just as bad as these fighters not wanting to fight the other side.

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      • mathed
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        #33
        Wilder gets humiliated, dismantled.

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        • Deont
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          #34
          Everyone knows he has the power to stop Fury, he just needs to land.

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          • Blond Beast
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            #35
            Originally posted by Roadblock
            Its interesting I feel Wilder has gotten better, I have a gut feeling Wilder is going to knock him out he has had a better prep for this rematch and he is mentally stronger than before.
            I think Wilder has gotten better also. Still I think there’s a chance he can always run out of time, especially against Fury. But Fury will have to be good all night while Wilder only needs to good for a second. That being said Fury did get up in that 12th, but the ref coulda just as easily assumed it was over and yanked that mouth guard out. Fury will be given the benefit of the doubt to get up if he goes down hard again. I don’t like this talk of Fury supposedly coming in heavier on purpose. That’s just an old boxing joke. I assume he just came into camp heavy. I know Wilder will be lean and mean. Like most things I’ll know more after the weigh in. If Fury weighs in wearing a sombrero and a tank top...

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            • Curtis Harper
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              #36
              Originally posted by miniq
              The facts are Wilder has fought all tomato cans then ducked Wlad for the easier BUMAne Stiverne WBC belt route, Bumane bieng anther tomato can. Then he fought a 50 year old cuban who actually might be 60 twice and had tough fights against him losing all the rounds in the rematch. His Fury fight was based on a failed cherry picked hoping Fury less than 12 months into his comeback would be finished after losing 100 pounds and bieng on drugs. It went wrong.

              100% Fury is beating Wilder.

              Do not be hyponotized by his power or his resume.

              The hate he is going to get after this rematch will be hard to handle for him. He's legit, but only when it comes to pasting all these other useless heavyweights who stand in front of him, Fury not bieng one of them.

              I'm pretty sure Foreman could come out of retirement now and still beat Stiverne. That big useless lump.
              Fury ''beat'' a ready to retire Wlad. NEITHER OF THEM ''fought'' as if they cared about winning (I use the term fought very loosely when it comes to that snorefest).

              What other quality guy has Fury faced ?

              It's your right to pick whoever you think will win but to say Fury's resume is better than ANYONES is a joke.

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              • TheMyspaceDayz
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                #37
                Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                Are people actually fans of promoters? Is this really a thing now? Or is it a thing like all of those “urban kids” meaning the black kids? I like boxers and definitely not promoters. If you’re a fan of a promoter you’re just as bad as these fighters not wanting to fight the other side.
                Not sure when it became a thing but it is definitely a thing now. It’s like model train enthusiasts and guys who buy sports games to play the general manager mode found boxing at the same time. Very unusual.

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                • LoadedWraps
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Curtis Harper
                  Fury ''beat'' a ready to retire Wlad. NEITHER OF THEM ''fought'' as if they cared about winning (I use the term fought very loosely when it comes to that snorefest).

                  What other quality guy has Fury faced ?

                  It's your right to pick whoever you think will win but to say Fury's resume is better than ANYONES is a joke.
                  Only Ortiz is above Cunningham's level.

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Just reading some of the comments on the video that you posted, apparently PBC silence the sound of Fury’s punches, made Wilder’s punches sound louder, then silent Paulie M commentary of the fight. One poster said he messages them after watching their version of the video, they then deleted it and re-upload with a new version. They did that to place the narrative that Wilder won. No wonder some of the posters on here are so into PBC/Haymon, that man is a genius. They would march like soldiers to heaven for him. I don’t blame them, the man went to Harvard I heard, and most of them.... Well

                    Still Wilder took a schooling.

                    Props to him for coming back and dropping twice the big man.

                    I respect Wilder as a fighter.

                    All I'm saying is, if the gipsy king is in much better shape and is stronger than the first fight, then Wilder is in a world of trouble.

                    Because weither we like it or not, Fury was 400 lbs one year because this fight, it doesn't help at all at the highest level.

                    Wilder will be a threat for Tyson every second of the fight, but I believe that Tyson will be even more dominant in the rematch, and will win if they see the final bell.

                    If he get clipped clean by Wilder, goodbye Tyson

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jsmith_tsu
                      After seeing my math mistake, I believe draw was right decision. At the end of the day I see Wilder ko Fury this time.

                      Wilder has enough ring iq to adjust to what he saw the first time
                      But still not even half of Fury's boxing IQ.
                      I don't expect the puncher to do the better adjustments.

                      And what you see or what happens in the rematch doesn't change the fact that Fury got robbed of one of the best comeback in boxing history and should have won IMO

                      The fact that Wilder's fans and his team were happy with the draw says it all.

                      Regarding the rematch I don't know what will happen TBH, because Fury has unbelievable talent and Wilder has unbelievable power.

                      It's either Wilder by ko or Fury by decision.

                      So both men are under pressure, Wilder needs a KO, Fury needs to avoid a KO, not an easy task for both as we saw in the first fight.
                      Fury was one second away to lose by KO and Wilder basically should have lost the decision IMO

                      Wilder is pressured too, he needs to KO Fury to win and already failed once trying so.

                      He was fighting a man who was 400 lbs 10 months before the fight and could not land his best punch before the 9th. Not a good look.

                      Don't be surprised if Wilder takes a beating.

                      Nothing surprising at all if Wilder ices Fury, agreed.
                      Last edited by BillyBoxing; 02-10-2020, 01:52 PM.

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