Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-De La Hoya, Crawford-Porter, More

[whoseyourdaddy]

Pretty good read. The only thing I would disagree with is the statement about Porter and Crawford fighting everyone. Porter has proven to fight the elite, win or lose, while Crawford has not proven he's willing and able. Crawford talks a lot ( usually when he's promoting upcoming fight) but does little else to prove he's willing to jump in with the best, he called out Porter, Porter answers and Crickets from Crawford and then says he's not interested. I think Crawford is very skilled but he has wasted his Career fighting paper champs and no-names. So at this point I don't really know if Crawford is willing to take chances and be great, at 32 time is running out.

Exactly! He has been crying that none of the PBC fighters wanted to fight him, now that Porter answer the call he cowards behind the I have bigger fish to fry, knowing that by beating Porter would put more pressure on the other PBC fighters that verily eek a win over Porter. Let alone if he beats him by stoppage or a clear 10-2 or 9-3 type of fight.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Breadman got shook bringing up Prime Canelo vs Mayweather. Mayweather fought Cotto and DLH at 154 before. Why Breadman said 152 shows he’s shook. 2lbs make a difference at the weigh in for some... why else did Floyd have a hard time making 144 for Marquez and 2lbs more for 146 renegotiating contracts? The Floyd lovers say, “it was a long layoff” yet Floyd is the master at conditioning he can shed 2lbs of water? It means post Floyd is hella drained at making 147? Fans don’t even get that!

Bread fumbled to say Floyd can’t make 160....lol. So what about 154-156?

[PittyPat]

Great posts on nutrition and rhythm. These are the kinds of topics I'd like to read more of from Breadman.

[Jab jab boom]

Breadman got shook bringing up Prime Canelo vs Mayweather. Mayweather fought Cotto and DLH at 154 before. Why Breadman said 152 shows he’s shook. 2lbs make a difference at the weigh in for some... why else did Floyd have a hard time making 144 for Marquez and 2lbs more for 146 renegotiating contracts? The Floyd lovers say, “it was a long layoff” yet Floyd is the master at conditioning he can shed 2lbs of water? It means post Floyd is hella drained at making 147? Fans don’t even get that!

Bread fumbled to say Floyd can’t make 160....lol. So what about 154-156?

Canelo asked for it... Was granted what he asked for plus an additional 2 pounds.. And then got his ass whooped. You make it too easy exposing your Canelo loving ignorance.

https://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-ill-drop-150-floyd-mayweather-jr--46563

[ShoulderRoll]

Great posts on nutrition and rhythm. These are the kinds of topics I'd like to read more of from Breadman.

Why don't you write in and ask him a question about those topics?

[Curtis2]

Yes because Crawford has proven hes better than Spence & Thurman at ww...Oh wait

If you're P4P #1 it's very easy to say TCraw better than all WW's, especially Thurman & Spence, without question...

[kushking]

Canelo asked for it... Was granted what he asked for plus an additional 2 pounds.. And then got his ass whooped. You make it too easy exposing your Canelo loving ignorance.

https://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alv...ther-jr--46563

You make it too easy exposing what a hindsight casual hater you are as usual with your lame attempts at hating. The link you posted was a full 2 years before Canelo fought floyd numbnuts(meaning the narrative is correct that Canelo had outgrown 152),Canelo told floyd CLEARLY that he had outgrown his ability to make 152 because he had grown & moved up in minimum weight which matches exactly with known facts about maturing at that age.(all fighters eventually develop more muscle as they mature in early 20s aka exactly the age he was,thats why he demanded that the fight be at 154 but Floyd said take it or leave it)

Floyd was on record for several yrs saying pacs cw wins don't count because he wants his opponents at their best unlike pac who drains them,then he bragged about intentionally weightdraining canelo the entire buildup of their fight while taunting him about how he couldn't train & forced to go to sleep without dinner.(this being the same floyd who had roidez jump 2 divisions for a cw then missed every deadline for changing contract,came in overweight & still made it to where he barely had to pay anything) At least try making sense of your ******ity.

Ftr I don't count Canelos age against Floyd, beating him then is impressive,not at that weight though

[Jab jab boom]

You make it too easy exposing what a hindsight casual hater you are as usual with your lame attempts at hating. The link you posted was a full 2 years before Canelo fought floyd numbnuts(meaning the narrative is correct that Canelo had outgrown 152),Canelo told floyd CLEARLY that he had outgrown his ability to make 152 because he had grown & moved up in minimum weight which matches exactly with known facts about maturing at that age.(all fighters eventually develop more muscle as they mature in early 20s aka exactly the age he was,thats why he demanded that the fight be at 154 but Floyd said take it or leave it)

Floyd was on record for several yrs saying pacs cw wins don't count because he wants his opponents at their best unlike pac who drains them,then he bragged about intentionally weightdraining canelo the entire buildup of their fight while taunting him about how he couldn't train & forced to go to sleep without dinner.(this being the same floyd who had roidez jump 2 divisions for a cw then missed every deadline for changing contract,came in overweight & still made it to where he barely had to pay anything) At least try making sense of your ******ity.

Ftr I don't count Canelos age against Floyd, beating him then is impressive,not at that weight though

wait a min, so canelo was able to make 154 all the way up until Sept of 2016, but making 152 exactly 3 yrs prior to then in 2013 was a weight draining experience that impacted his performance? If he could still make 154 a full 3 yrs later, why is it an acceptable excuse when he asked for 150 on November 29th of 2011 and was granted 152 by Sept of 2013?

Not to mention, that Canelo complains about that catchweight but wants full credit for all of his wins at 155 right? Or his weird catch weight fight of 163.5 against Chavez Jr, or not to mention the fact that he dragged out fighting ggg for yrs by demanding 155 in order for the fight to happen. Or his insistance on rehydration clauses for his last 2 fights.

For the record, I'm not a fan of any catch weights whether it's Floyd, Canelo, pac or Cotto. But to use those 2 pounds as an excuse as to why Canelo lost is inaccurate. He lost because he was the inferior fighter. Just like you're inferior at debating boxing with me. I didn't forget how your account should be deleted but you chose to not honor the bet. "ima go to the thunder dome" lmaooo clown.

[siablo14]

Jo Jo Diaz is one gutsy kid. He fought for 11 rounds with one of the worst cuts I’ve ever seen. He could have started blinking and caused a No Contest. He could have kept pawing at it and gave Farmer confidence. He acted like it wasn’t even there. He responded like a hungry professional that wanted to make his dream come true of becoming a champion. Excellent performance. Diaz, his trainers and his cutman did an AWESOME job. Congratulations guys.

Red - Hold up! Shots fired at J-Rock? J-Rock kept pawing at his cut. That probably gave Rosario extra confidence.

[siablo14]

Breadman absolutely correct. What good comes from T Crawford beating Porter so bad, to the point where pops Porter would have to throw the towel in to save his kid after washed up Thurman & clueless Spence battled Porter for 12?

It would be a bigger statement that what Thurman and Spence did. Anyways, I am waiting to see who Bud's next opponent is. Hopefully he is better than Porter.