Comments Thread For: Wilder: Dillian Whyte is Just a Compulsive Liar, He Had Chances

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  • turnedup
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    #11
    Why does anyone in their right mind want to argue in favor of someone with tainted drug testing samples? Have we really become so enamored with hating another fighter that we want to excuse the cheating of another fighter? Yo, boxing fans have really changed and it’s like night and day. The same folk who used to lynch fighters for PED su****ions not even failed tests are now arguing for those who failed them to get title opportunities. Can’t make this shh up.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      Originally posted by joe strong
      Facts? You forgot to mention Wilder agreeing to it as long as Hearn put it in writing that if he beat Whyte he was guaranteed a shot at Joshua next. That is the part you conveniently leave out...
      You can't do that you moron. It's a separate fight that needs negotiating by itself. They'd have to put the the splits and everything in the contract. Why the **** would Whyte and Joshua who are rivals agree. Use your pimple sized brain.

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      • Jkp
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        #13
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        You can't do that you moron. It's a separate fight that needs negotiating by itself. They'd have to put the the splits and everything in the contract. Why the **** would Whyte and Joshua who are rivals agree. Use your pimple sized brain.
        Wrong.
        Almost every world title fights had rematch clause so is a multi fight deal.

        Eddie's famous 120 million offer was multi fight deal with AJ at the end wasn't it?

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          #14
          Originally posted by VislorTurlough
          Chickensht Whyte. 2 opportunities to fight eliminators and ran. 2x undisputed PED cheat. Apologize to Rivas. Open the B sample. The biggest clown in boxing. Worse than Miller.
          Whytes worst sin is turning down guaranteed world title fights with AJ. Twice!!!!

          Proven coward. Who turns down a shot at 3 world titles???

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          • EnglishOxide
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            #15
            Originally posted by joe strong
            Facts? You forgot to mention Wilder agreeing to it as long as Hearn put it in writing that if he beat Whyte he was guaranteed a shot at Joshua next. That is the part you conveniently leave out...
            What does it matter? That's just a way of ducking. Deyonce didn't really want to fight AJ as proven by all the offers he turned down, it was just a contractual roadblock in making the Whyte fight.

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #16
              Originally posted by Jkp
              Wrong.
              Almost every world title fights had rematch clause so is a multi fight deal.

              Eddie's famous 120 million offer was multi fight deal with AJ at the end wasn't it?
              The rematch clauses have the purses set for the rematch.

              That was DAZN's offer. Like DAZN's offer to Golovkin they can guarantee the money not the fight.

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              • EnglishOxide
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                #17
                Originally posted by turnedup
                Why does anyone in their right mind want to argue in favor of someone with tainted drug testing samples? Have we really become so enamored with hating another fighter that we want to excuse the cheating of another fighter? Yo, boxing fans have really changed and it’s like night and day. The same folk who used to lynch fighters for PED su****ions not even failed tests are now arguing for those who failed them to get title opportunities. Can’t make this shh up.
                You must have missed UKAD, BBoBC, WBC, VADA and NADP, all of the relevant boxing and drug testing authorities declaring him innocent of any wrongdoing.

                I'll take their professional judgements over yours thank you very much.

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                • Articulateboxin
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by turnedup
                  Why does anyone in their right mind want to argue in favor of someone with tainted drug testing samples? Have we really become so enamored with hating another fighter that we want to excuse the cheating of another fighter? Yo, boxing fans have really changed and it’s like night and day. The same folk who used to lynch fighters for PED su****ions not even failed tests are now arguing for those who failed them to get title opportunities. Can’t make this shh up.
                  Well I wrote a lengthy piece on this before about context and having to take each scenario on a case by case basis, prior to Whyte's clearance. However to summarize, these fighters are paying thousands of dollars to voluntarily sign up to VADA to ensure their opponent is clean and also to show the world they have nothing to hide. Of course signing up doesn't necessarily prove innocence, but realistically, it goes a very long way. Furthermore, if we assume guilt on the back of a failed test, then why bother with process and due diligence at all? We bother with process because mistakes happen every single day in any medical field. Why should any sports-persons entire career be ruined on the back of human error? At least investigate before assuming blame.

                  Again this isn't to say Whyte didn't somehow bribe a government sponsored council with thousands, while simultaneously paying off VADA (who he tested clean with the day prior and after) and then the accountant(s) required to launder money to hide the wire transfer to so many individuals etc etc, not to mention the work needed to hide this laundered money again when it comes to filing tax. I'm just saying we are so quick to judge and make gospel truth calls and make up these incredibly unlikely conspiracy theories.

                  Whyte had already tested positive years earlier for using a pre-workout called Jacked. This stuff doesn't contain anabolic steroids, kids can buy it for **** sake. He was just an idiot and clearly unprofessional, it actually contained a food additive called dimethylamylamine which is thought to increase blood pressure and help burn fat, so was banned for use by some of the testing bodies because of the health risks to the user. Do you really think after serving so long of a ban, he's going to run right back into using illegal drugs?

                  I love this sport to bits and of course I demand fighters are fighting clean but that doesn't mean i'm going to immediately condemn a fighter without looking at the circumstances. There is a freaking world of difference between drinking a sports drink and somebody like Miller, who is actually injecting human growth hormone!
                  Last edited by Articulateboxin; 02-04-2020, 08:05 AM.

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                    #19
                    Nobody want to give a big payday to Dillianabol

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                    • Ray*
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                      #20
                      Pure lies from Wilder here. No point even coming out and saying this, makes him look ******. He is on record with his ducking of Whyte, you are NOT a matchmaker nor are you the organisation.

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