Americans or Sovjets

**Nacho_Analstain** · 08-04-2006, 01:43 PM

i think the american fighters are better,stronger and smarter in the ring

**Hitman932** · 08-04-2006, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by :Bobby:

First of all, please let me say that in my opinion the whole "last American heavyweight champ, the Sovjets are taking over" talk is quite ****** since it doesn't matter where you are from - it's all about what kind of a fighter, what a man you are.

01 - Wladimir Klitschko
02 - Nikolay Valuev
03 - Serguei Lyakhovich
04 - Ruslan Chagaev
05 - Alexander Dimitrenko
06 - Oleg Maskaev
07 - Sultan Ibragimov
08 - Vladimir Virchis
09 - Taras *****ko
10 - Alexander Povetkin

01 - Lamon Brewster
02 - Hasim Rahman
03 - Shannon Briggs
04 - James Toney
05 - Calvin Brock
06 - Samuel Peter
07 - John Ruiz
08 - David Tua
09 - Monte Barrett
10 - Tony Thompson

But I think the American boxers are - overall - much stronger. What do you think?

hell no, the americans suck compared to the europeans.

i can tell you agree by the fact that you include sam peter (nigeria) and daid tua (new zealand) with the american boxers. thats pretty funny, i bet you even have some dumb logic as to why they should be counted as americans.

the fact of the matter is that oleg maskaev is an american citizen, peter im almost positive isnt, and tua i dont know, i doubt he is either. so by your way of doing things maskaev should be included on the american list as well.

lol, nice try

you must do pr for monte barrett also, he doesent belong on any best of list

**:Bobby:** · 08-04-2006, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by azza-mc

i think the american fighters are better,stronger and smarter in the ring

Agreed. I think it's a matter of match-making rather than skills. The situation will change again quite soon I expect.

**Shanus** · 08-04-2006, 01:46 PM

The americans as a team are stronger, but this is boxing, there are no teams, Wlad will conquer.

**BloodClot** · 08-04-2006, 01:51 PM

Tua is a Lives n New Zealand and is from Western Somoa...As far as I know he has never lived here for any extended period of time. Soviet is a dead term has been since the early 90s. Besides some of those "sovjets" you talk of are now americans. Samual Peters is a nigerian who lives here in amrica and is not a citizen. Alot of those eastern euros live here. Why are they not on your american list?

**Nacho_Analstain** · 08-04-2006, 01:51 PM

i am english,but every british fighter ive seen,despite wether they are good or not(which alot of them are) always seem 2 be tryina break america,and get theyre name over theyre,so that says sumthin for american fighters

**Hitman932** · 08-04-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by BloodClot

Tua is a Lives n New Zealand and is from Western Somoa...As far as I know he has never lived here for any extended period of time. Soviet is a dead term has been since the early 90s. Besides some of those "sovjets" you talk of are now americans. Samual Peters is a nigerian who lives here in amrica and is not a citizen. Alot of those eastern euros live here. Why are they not on your american list?

you should read other posts before posting, i just said everything you said 2 posts above yours.

**Tha Greatest** · 08-04-2006, 01:55 PM

The Americans just suck right now, so do the Russians.

Brewster would destroy Wlad...
Lyakhovich is the only decent Russian fighter, today..

**kayjay** · 08-04-2006, 01:59 PM

If we remove Peter and Tua from the American list this is not even close. The 'Soviets' are considerably better at each level and aspect as far as today's heavyweights are cncerned. But rally, why does this matter? We will all be better off when we don't care.

Americans or Sovjets