PBC won't help DAZN hurt their business

[The Big Dunn]

Two questions.

Did Wilder duck Joshua when he turned down the dazn deal?

Did Joshua duck Wilder when he turned down the 50 million deal?

Simple yes or no.

No one is ducking Szef.

I reject the idea that this is limited to yes and no. There is nuance here. AJ is the a side but the fight makes the most money in America. AJ is dazn exclusive but it would deflate revenue to put this fight on dazn in America.

The only reason so many Brits want to keep talking ducking is because AJ lost to Ruiz.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah I was wondering why that keeps getting repeated. Is that another background thing that Haymon secretly has control of? Lol

Also I’m not sure why Wilder needs to be concerned about judges seeing as he usually doesn’t win any rounds and he’s not beating AJ on points. If he’s winning it’s by turning the lights off on Joshua..... also if anything up until this point he’s had the rub of the green from the judges anyway.

See his answer below. Terry also clarified same in another thread.

I can't help it if a lot of you don't really know or will not admit that my points here are fair and accurate.

[sunny31]

No one is ducking Szef.

I reject the idea that this is limited to yes and no. There is nuance here. AJ is the a side but the fight makes the most money in America. AJ is dazn exclusive but it would deflate revenue to put this fight on dazn in America.

The only reason so many Brits want to keep talking ducking is because AJ lost to Ruiz.

See his answer below. Terry also clarified same in another thread.

I can't help it if a lot of you don't really know or will not admit that my points here are fair and accurate.

No one reasonable in this thread is talking duck, they are talking crap business from Team Wilder, which you are trying to justify.

His best interests have not been looked after and the reason is that it doesnt align with the interests of the people that look after his career. You refuse to acknowledge this, and keep squirming around like the TS.

He isn't a successful or established ppv fighter...in that instance you go with the guys that are guaranteeing the money. Not fight the same fights for less money (brezeale) and harder fights (fury) for a quarter of the money.

To even match the DAZN offer, a Wilder-Joshua fight needs to do 2m+ buys, the same as Floyd-Canelo...lol

It would be a co-promotion on a network that represents both fighters, the referee would most likely be American or the best neutral country referee in the world, the judges would be one from each country and one neutral...like any other fight...and as if we'd actually need them apart from a 10 count.

He is an idiot, as are you right now...I'm done

[OnePunch]

As I posted, the promoter has influence over the selection. While they can't request specific officials, they do provide lists and can essentially veto. This is all I was posting. It was disingenuous of you to post that I was reposting lies or my post was in any way inaccurate.

You posted If you were Wilder's promoter you wouldn't have advised Wilder to take that $100 mil deal.

I just wanted to clarify these 2 points.

A promoter does NOT have veto power. That power lies solely with the commission. The promoter can ask, but it is rarely granted.

I dont know how much clearer I can make that point.

[The Big Dunn]

No one reasonable in this thread is talking duck, they are talking crap business from Team Wilder, which you are trying to justify.

His best interests have not been looked after and the reason is that it doesnt align with the interests of the people that look after his career. You refuse to acknowledge this, and keep squirming around like the TS.

He isn't a successful or established ppv fighter...in that instance you go with the guys that are guaranteeing the money. Not fight the same fights for less money (brezeale) and harder fights (fury) for a quarter of the money.

To even match the DAZN offer, a Wilder-Joshua fight needs to do 2m+ buys, the same as Floyd-Canelo...lol

It would be a co-promotion on a network that represents both fighters, the referee would most likely be American or the best neutral country referee in the world, the judges would be one from each country and one neutral...like any other fight...and as if we'd actually need them apart from a 10 count.

He is an idiot, as are you right now...I'm done

You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree that Team Wilder made a bad business decision because I don't think it wise to sacrifice winning for money. You feel they should've taken the money.

His best interests are not being looked out for if the plan is to have him fight on dazn against AJ.

[The Big Dunn]

A promoter does NOT have veto power. That power lies solely with the commission. The promoter can ask, but it is rarely granted.

I dont know how much clearer I can make that point.

I posted essentially has veto power because they provide the lists and can ask for a change. Rarely granted means it is granted sometimes.

The more important point which you haven't denied is If you were Wilder's promoter you wouldn't have advised Wilder to take that $100 mil deal.

Instead of all this back and forth, lets educate other posters as to why you'd have made the same decision Haymon did with regard to this offer.

[OnePunch]

You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree that Team Wilder made a bad business decision because I don't think it wise to sacrifice winning for money. You feel they should've taken the money.

His best interests are not being looked out for if the plan is to have him fight on dazn against AJ.

so you truly believe that Wilder would outbox AJ for 12 rounds but get jobbed on the cards?????

come on man. Now you have transgressed from just being wrong to being insane......

[OnePunch]

I posted essentially has veto power because they provide the lists and can ask for a change. Rarely granted means it is granted sometimes.

The more important point which you haven't denied is If you were Wilder's promoter you wouldn't have advised Wilder to take that $100 mil deal.

Instead of all this back and forth, lets educate other posters as to why you'd have made the same decision Haymon did with regard to this offer.

if AS A PROMOTER I had a content deal with another network, then no, I wouldnt let him fight on another platform. But a promoter has no fiduciary duty to the fighter, so I would be well within my rights to look out for my own interests ahead of the fighters. It would be his MANAGERS responsibility to press me into making that deal.

[DaNeutral.]

so you truly believe that Wilder would outbox AJ for 12 rounds but get jobbed on the cards?????

come on man. Now you have transgressed from just being wrong to being insane......

He isnt insane he is just desperate. I think it has all become very clear what has been going on, especially considering revelations this week about Haymon and PBC practices and Big Dunn feels it necessary to try to defend the PBC and Wilder to the hilt and at this point in time that is a very big ask so he has to resort to desperate measures which leads to ridiculous narratives that to most Boxing fans seem insane, but he isnt insane, he knows hes talking bollocks.

[The Big Dunn]

so you truly believe that Wilder would outbox AJ for 12 rounds but get jobbed on the cards?????

come on man. Now you have transgressed from just being wrong to being insane......

I didn't post that, did I? Why are you continuing to take what I post, alter it and then ask me about your altered post rather than what I specifically posted. I have given you no reason to continue to do this. Please stop.

I have answered every question directly. The least you could do is the same thing.