Young Mike Tyson v. Old George Foreman

[NORMNEALON]

Old george so mentally tough, but he didn't take the fight; you already admitted that. Tyson only became mentally weak after his jail sentencing and losing to buster douglas. No way does a young up n coming tyson lose to any version of george foreman. I can't even imagine Foreman's slow, lumbering punches even touching tyson. It's just not possible.

the fight would go like this .......tyson batters george for 3-4 rounds ......tyson slows right down for the mid rounds as george keeps pawing forwards landing hard short straight punches and short hooks while tyson lunges in . Still a competitive fight but the momentum is shifting ....by round 8 tyson is chewing his gloves looking around the ring for a way out . Late round tko by big george after sitting tyson down twice. It doesnt matter if I admitted that george wouldnt take the fight , neither would mike . And what relevance does that have to a mythical matchup ?? This is straight opinion for fun . Imo old george wins the fight like this . Young george vs prime mike looks like the lyle fight , but mike just simply isnt that tough. How many fights has mike got off the canvas and won ?? Iam waiting ....

[MiDKnighT]

the fight would go like this .......tyson batters george for 3-4 rounds ......tyson slows right down for the mid rounds as george keeps pawing forwards landing hard short straight punches and short hooks while tyson lunges in . Still a competitive fight but the momentum is shifting ....by round 8 tyson is chewing his gloves looking around the ring for a way out . Late round tko by big george after sitting tyson down twice. It doesnt matter if I admitted that george wouldnt take the fight , neither would mike . And what relevance does that have to a mythical matchup ?? This is straight opinion for fun . Imo old george wins the fight like this . Young george vs prime mike looks like the lyle fight , but mike just simply isnt that tough. How many fights has mike got off the canvas and won ?? Iam waiting ....

I disagree with your assessment. If Tyson is his usual aggressive self he's down in 3 rounds or less. NOBODY goes toe to toe with Foreman and remains upright. Every fighter that ever beat Foreman did so by running away (or covering up) from his power and boxing him. And that is not Tyson's style at all. He cannot fight going backwards. And he's not going to back George up.

I do agree with you that Tyson vs young George might end up like the Lyle fight. But older George was smarter than that. Young George was sometimes wreckless like he was vs Lyle. That said Lyle tried to win a slugfest with George and lost. But it was actually one of George's worst fights cuz he got caught up in the slugfest and gave up all notion of defense. Old George wouldn't do that.

[FinitoxDinamita]

George Foreman was durable and too much of a dog to lose to Tyson.

I believe Tyson would be intimidated by somebody like Foreman and it would be in his head.

Foreman beats his ass from pillar to post

[REDEEMER]

Foreman didn’t and wouldn’t have the punch count to beat Tyson ,you really needed to pound him consistently to win in punches in bunches . Tyson would slip slow single shots rather easily and hurt Foreman’s body ,we could see how this fight may play out when Foreman fought Qawi so I don’t see Foreman as a betting favorite .

[NORMNEALON]

I disagree with your assessment. If Tyson is his usual aggressive self he's down in 3 rounds or less. NOBODY goes toe to toe with Foreman and remains upright. Every fighter that ever beat Foreman did so by running away (or covering up) from his power and boxing him. And that is not Tyson's style at all. He cannot fight going backwards. And he's not going to back George up.

I do agree with you that Tyson vs young George might end up like the Lyle fight. But older George was smarter than that. Young George was sometimes wreckless like he was vs Lyle. That said Lyle tried to win a slugfest with George and lost. But it was actually one of George's worst fights cuz he got caught up in the slugfest and gave up all notion of defense. Old George wouldn't do that.

Old george was way smarter but he still blocked punches with his face FAR TOO MUCH . Imo tyson loses to george becuase he wouldnt have the perseverance or toughness . Skill wise he would look great vs old foreman until he knew he couldnt discourage the old man . I think smart old george knows this and waits patiently for the right moment . I think with the wrong ref tyson may get a premature stoppage . He was much faster than george . That being said old george tko sometime after 8 . I respect your opinion , but george didn't exactly dominate and stop one top heavyweight in his second run

[MiDKnighT]

Foreman didn’t and wouldn’t have the punch count to beat Tyson ,you really needed to pound him consistently to win in punches in bunches . Tyson would slip slow single shots rather easily and hurt Foreman’s body ,we could see how this fight may play out when Foreman fought Qawi so I don’t see Foreman as a betting favorite .

I do agree that if it goes to a decision Tyson wins. But it's not going to go to a decision if 2 power punchers go at it and don't back down. And Foreman doesn't need a lot of punches to put people down. He's put people down with jabs and grazing shots.

You brought up Qawi who Holyfield said was his toughest opponent ever. Foreman made Qawi quit. So I don't know how that helps your argument. And of course Foreman wouldn't be the betting favorite. Wasn't Holyfield like an 8-1 underdog when he fought Tyson? I would put my money on Foreman though. Would be easy money with good betting odds.

[MiDKnighT]

I respect your opinion , but george didn't exactly dominate and stop one top heavyweight in his second run

During his second run there weren't many heavyweights that took the fight to George cuz they were wary of his power. Cooney did and got KO'd hard in 2. Bert Cooper did and quit on his stool after 2. Qawi is a warrior with no quit in him until Foreman made him quit in the 7th. Note that I don't think Tyson has the heart that Qawi does. Holyfield traded with Foreman some but only if he thought Foreman was hurt. Holyfield ended up eating some nasty shots that would have put most heavyweights down though.

The most amazing thing about George's 2nd run is that he was never knocked down once facing many former champions. George's 2nd coming might have had the best chin in heavyweight history.

[LetOutTheCage]

Tough one because young Mike was so fast and explosive. Foreman was very durable but I cant see that version of Foreman lasting against young Tyson. Young Foreman is a different story though...

[REDEEMER]

I do agree that if it goes to a decision Tyson wins. But it's not going to go to a decision if 2 power punchers go at it and don't back down. And Foreman doesn't need a lot of punches to put people down. He's put people down with jabs and grazing shots.

You brought up Qawi who Holyfield said was his toughest opponent ever. Foreman made Qawi quit. So I don't know how that helps your argument. And of course Foreman wouldn't be the betting favorite. Wasn't Holyfield like an 8-1 underdog when he fought Tyson? I would put my money on Foreman though. Would be easy money with good betting odds.

Qawi was the closest one to Tyson’s style he fought and was getting tagged a lot ,Qawi is half the size of Tyson . If Ruddock couldn’t budge Tyson with left hooks that were fast I don’t see slow Foremen ones doing much better because it’s the punches you don’t see coming that are more dangerous and Tyson was the greatest counter puncher in history imop ,I just can’t see anyone with slow punching winning .


Foreman also struggled badly with Stewart who Tyson knocked out in a round or two so I don’t see how odds mean anything in this match .


Foreman struggled with Savarese also who Tyson dispatched in one round .


Tyson going on the premise of the thread was not near to losing under Kevin Rooney and owns everything important advantage in winning fights from technique to style ,you would have had a clubber vs a razor sharp counter puncher who starts early and has had no stamina issues going the distance . Foreman’s slow pace would not make Tyson have to worry about slowing down late in the fight if Foreman is still on the move .

[MiDKnighT]

Qawi was the closest one to Tyson’s style he fought and was getting tagged a lot ,Qawi is half the size of Tyson . If Ruddock couldn’t budge Tyson with left hooks that were fast

1. Qawi fought in the heavyweight division against Foreman. Tyson is not a big heavyweight. Half the size of Tyson? No. Just looked it up, Qawi was over 220 in that fight.

2. Did you really just compare Razor Ruddock's punching power to George Foreman's? Here, let me introduce you to George Foreman. You don't seem to know him very well.



Many if not most boxing experts and former fighters rank Foreman as the 2nd hardest puncher in the history of boxing after only Earnie Shavers.

Holyfield said that Foreman hit him harder than anyone. And he's fought a lot of great fighters and power punchers.

Another old school boxer (maybe Ali?) compared Frazier and Foreman's power. They said getting hit by Frazier was like getting hit by a Cadillac at 60mph. Getting hit by Foreman was like getting hit by a semi truck at 45mph.

And Foreman negates a lot of his opponent's speed with grappling maneuvers. Especially someone with Tyson's style.

Once again, styles make fights.

I don't care who struggles with who and who knocks who else out fast. It doesn't matter. It's one style vs another style. And Foreman's style is the worst possible matchup for Tyson. Tyson would last longer against prime Ali or prime Joe Louis than he would against young or old Foreman. Not because Foreman is better than Ali or Louis, because his style is such a perfect counter for Tyson's. Watch Foreman vs Frazier 1 to see what I mean.