Should Joshua force the Wilder fight?

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  • Tyistall
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    #11
    So, AJ, who has 3 belts to Wilder's 1, should be "forced" to fight a guy he already beat? You are a special kind of ****** hahahaha

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      #12
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
      - -AJ already minting his own $$$.

      Fury and Deyonce have become flushable.
      Any man who publicly talks about masterbation in a public forum like WIlder and Fury, should just dive down a toilet and flush themselves out of the sport.

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        #13
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - -AJ already minting his own $$$.

        Fury and Deyonce have become flushable.
        Thank you for adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.

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          #14
          Why should AJ force the fight ? According to you he’s the one who’s avoiding it ? Ha

          Fury is a mandatory so AJ would be looking at a few years , you also have to take into account a Fury win ,no need to force anything because Fury would fight AJ if he attains the belt .

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          • Kezzer
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            #15
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            What if PBC doesn't want the fight in Saudi Arabia? Or doesn't want the fight on DAZN?

            The fight would make the most money being on PPV live from the United States.

            If you really want the fight to happen, a purse bid solves all of this. Both sides bid and whoever bids the most gets the fight.
            You really don’t understand finances if you think us ppv would definitely be the most way to make money. That is no longer the case. Particularly for a Joshua fight where for this sort of fight in uk mainstream time you would get over 2 mil buys alone, probably half of that at most if in US time zone - so it would have to make up that loss before you even look at other territories including the host site.

            If you think that Saudi offered somewhere in the region of 100 mil for the Ruiz fight, then you would expect it to be considerably more for any Joshua wilder fight (or fury Joshua too for that matter)

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              #16
              Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
              I dunno man, them Saudis are f*****g minted. If they wanna see a show, they pay.
              If that's true, then Hearn should have no problem going to purse bid as he'll obviously win if you're right.


              In any case, I am all for any ideas which might force Wilder to stop ducking the fight with AJ.
              The confirmed facts make it very clear that it was Hearn ducking, not Wilder. I know for fans in the UK, it's difficult to get unbiased reporting about this subject. So I accept the possibility that you're unwilling to discuss the true events of the situation.

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              • Fanofreason
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kezzer
                His interview today said he will offer 50/50 fight to the winner for a fight in saudi in December

                He doesn’t need to fight Whyte again to force anything. His four belts mean far more than mandatory
                Why would they fight on Dazn. That fight would generate way more on PPV.

                AJ is not calling the shots vs Fury or Wilder.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Kezzer
                  You really don’t understand finances if you think us ppv would definitely be the most way to make money. That is no longer the case. Particularly for a Joshua fight where for this sort of fight in uk mainstream time you would get over 2 mil buys alone, probably half of that at most if in US time zone - so it would have to make up that loss before you even look at other territories including the host site.

                  If you think that Saudi offered somewhere in the region of 100 mil for the Ruiz fight, then you would expect it to be considerably more for any Joshua wilder fight (or fury Joshua too for that matter)
                  Your not to bright. US PPV would generate way more money than Dazn USA.

                  The England PPV has nothing to do with USA.

                  When are your guys going to think with your brains?

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                  • Kezzer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Fanofreason
                    Why would they fight on Dazn. That fight would generate way more on PPV.

                    AJ is not calling the shots vs Fury or Wilder.
                    Who mentioned dazn? If dazn offer more money than you think a ppv fight would make then why wouldn’t you go to dazn?

                    Whether you like to believe wilder/fury hold the shots or not, Joshua carries the brings with him the biggest proportion of $ and money talks in this game. Just ask anyone who fights canelo.

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                    • Kezzer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Fanofreason
                      Your not to bright. US PPV would generate way more money than Dazn USA.

                      The England PPV has nothing to do with USA.

                      When are your guys going to think with your brains?
                      Ok I’ll try break this down for you because clearly you don’t understand how this works globally. Money is generated outside of us too. Numbers obviously are simplified here. I’ve ignored other territories but European time is likely to gain higher income than American time due to the audience who watch Joshua elsewhere globally.

                      Option 1 - US PPV

                      US sales (assume 1 mil ppv @ $80 which is ambitious) = $80m
                      Vegas site fee = $20m
                      UK ppv (1 mil @ £20 = $26) = $26m

                      Total = $126m

                      Saudi fight
                      US ppv/dazn fee = $10m
                      Saudi site fee = $150m
                      UK ppv (2 mil x £25 = $32) = $64m

                      Total = $224m

                      There are clearly many factors and these are very much estimates but it’s just to show you the idea of how/why fighting outside of the US could prove more profitably, particularly if a place like saudi will offer a huge sum to host the fight

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