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  • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    You get a TUE for substances or methods that are banned without a TUE.
    They are literally on WADA's banned list.

    Or maybe you think the banned list does not apply to Floyd?

    https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...ted_list_0.pdf


    CHEMICAL AND PHYSICAL MANIPULATION

    The following are prohibited:

    1. Tampering, or Attempting to Tamper, to alter the integrity and validity of Samples collected during Doping Control.Including, but not limited to:Sample substitution and/or adulteration, e.g. Addition of proteases to Sample.

    2. Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than a total of 100 mL per 12 hour period except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital treatments, surgical procedures or clinical diagnostic investigations.


    Guess what prohibited means?



    So we know Floyd took a banned IV.
    But why he was granted this retroactive TUE 3 weeks after the fight, and why was not the details published which they are required to do?

    And which medical condition did it treat?

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    • And the reason why the IV is banned is because it can be used to manipulate the validity of the samples collected.


      The IV is used to masked future PED use.
      It is no coincident that Floyd took it on the eve of the Pacquiao fight, knowing that he could take PEDs before the fight with Pacquiao and the IV would mask a positive test.


      The only medical condition the IV can treat is severe dehydration, and as we know Floyd made weight comfortable and did not have to cut much at all. So he would not have even been mildly dehydrated.


      We also know, no report was ever published by USADA on this TUE even though the rules say they must do this.


      There is no other explanation, Floyd doped and USADA let him.

      This also explains Floyd's insistence on using USADA, dismissing everyone else even VADA who have a much better record of catching cheats in boxing.

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      • - -When Arum got the breakdown, he noted Floyd had a lower testosterone value than the 80+ Arum!!!

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        • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          It is allowed to be taken in the doses listed.

          LMAO, take some Advil and feel like Superman?

          It not a narcotic and does not alter your state of mind.

          I'd trust WADA over your crazy delusions, what drugs are you taking?
          As former University of Colorado and NFL lineman, Matt McChesney said, “A shot in your butt cheek before a game (and you) feel like frickin’ Superman when you walk on the field. Everything is numb. You feel great!”
          https://kdvr.com/2015/05/13/masking-...ollege-sports/

          Dr. Congeni: The wonder drug — and the great debate in the last couple of months — of sports medicine in the last decade has really become a medicine known as Toradol. Toradol has been used in professional sports and a lot in college sports. It’s kind of become the go-to pain medicine. Toradol is a strong non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. So, it’s one of the cousins to Motrin, Aleve and Naproxen, but it’s much stronger when it comes to pain. It’s useful in injections. The big benefit of Toradol, this stronger pain medicine, is it has a real rapid onset, it works right away. It clears the system very fast — three to five hours.
          https://inside.akronchildrens.org/20...toradol-audio/


          But the Super Bowl? With little hesitance, Holt asked for and received a Toradol shot.

          "I felt like new money," Holt said. "You get that shot and you feel like you're 18, 19 years old. It's like a sheet of armor. I was a new man."

          Several hours later, after making seven catches for 109 yards, including a 9-yard touchdown grab, Holt was also a Super Bowl champion with the Rams edging the Titans 23-16.

          Everything about the day felt great. Until the Toradol faded.

          http://www.startribune.com/zeroing-i...ned/166712256/

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          • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
            As former University of Colorado and NFL lineman, Matt McChesney said, “A shot in your butt cheek before a game (and you) feel like frickin’ Superman when you walk on the field. Everything is numb. You feel great!”
            https://kdvr.com/2015/05/13/masking-...ollege-sports/

            Dr. Congeni: The wonder drug — and the great debate in the last couple of months — of sports medicine in the last decade has really become a medicine known as Toradol. Toradol has been used in professional sports and a lot in college sports. It’s kind of become the go-to pain medicine. Toradol is a strong non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. So, it’s one of the cousins to Motrin, Aleve and Naproxen, but it’s much stronger when it comes to pain. It’s useful in injections. The big benefit of Toradol, this stronger pain medicine, is it has a real rapid onset, it works right away. It clears the system very fast — three to five hours.
            https://inside.akronchildrens.org/20...toradol-audio/


            But the Super Bowl? With little hesitance, Holt asked for and received a Toradol shot.

            "I felt like new money," Holt said. "You get that shot and you feel like you're 18, 19 years old. It's like a sheet of armor. I was a new man."

            Several hours later, after making seven catches for 109 yards, including a 9-yard touchdown grab, Holt was also a Super Bowl champion with the Rams edging the Titans 23-16.

            Everything about the day felt great. Until the Toradol faded.

            http://www.startribune.com/zeroing-i...ned/166712256/

            Not on the WADA prohibited substances list.

            https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...ted_list_0.pdf

            Double check for me, maybe I missed it.


            Floyd's banned IV is certainly on there though.

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            • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              And the reason why the IV is banned is because it can be used to manipulate the validity of the samples collected.
              Which is why even though the IV was 100% legal in Nevada for any reason, Floyd and Manny hired USADA to monitor them and make sure any IV use was for legitimate medical purposes. USADA says it was. You, a random stranger on the internet, with no information, says it wasn't. Good for you.

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              • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                Which is why even though the IV was 100% legal in Nevada for any reason, Floyd and Manny hired USADA to monitor them and make sure any IV use was for legitimate medical purposes. USADA says it was. You, a random stranger on the internet, with no information, says it wasn't. Good for you.
                Now you are claiming Floyd did not use WADA protocols and their banned substance list.

                Why do you think he chose not to?

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                • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  Not on the WADA prohibited substances list.

                  https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...ted_list_0.pdf

                  Double check for me, maybe I missed it.


                  Floyd's banned IV is certainly on there though.
                  Like I said in my original post its really a legal PED, for the time being that is, many are trying to have it put on the banned PED list.

                  So if it becomes blacklisted any time in the future Manny was a PED user.

                  The point Im making is its not a headache pill, its a very powerful pain killer, in the doses athletes take and what it does to an athlete its as plain as day its a PED. Your comeback from trying to blow it off was oh its wada legal.

                  How can you gloss over things like this.

                  "I felt like new money," Holt said. "You get that shot and you feel like you're 18, 19 years old. It's like a sheet of armor. I was a new man."

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                  • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    Now you are claiming Floyd did not use WADA protocols and their banned substance list.
                    Never said that. You or I have no idea if he did or he didn't. All we know is that USADA witnessed what happened, USADA investigated what happened, USADA's doctors analyzed the medical reports, and it was determined the IV was for legit reasons.

                    You, with no information, disagree and to that I say, good for you.

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                    • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
                      Like I said in my original post its really a legal PED, for the time being that is, many are trying to have it put on the banned PED list.

                      So if it becomes blacklisted any time in the future Manny was a PED user.

                      The point Im making is its not a headache pill, its a very powerful pain killer in the doses athletes take what it does to an athlete and its as plain as day its a PED, your comeback from trying to blow it off was oh its wada legal.

                      How can you gloss over things like this.

                      "I felt like new money," Holt said. "You get that shot and you feel like you're 18, 19 years old. It's like a sheet of armor. I was a new man."

                      Because the science and the type of drug says it ain't true, it is a stronger version of Advil, Ibuprofen, excepts it acts faster.

                      The biggest concern regarding it's use is the damage it can do to kidneys for prolonged use.

                      It is for pain relief for muscle injures and also acts as an anti-inflammatory.


                      It is not some elixir, the fountain of youth, does not give you more energy, make you stronger, improve your reactions or even have any mental improvements


                      And like I said before, it not on the banned list.
                      So why was Pacquiao stopped from taking the shot?

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