Andrade turned down an offer to face Canelo

[Curt Henning]

Bingo!!!! And EVERYONE but GGGTards know this.

goes back beyond jacobs too

when lara was calling for him and would have been best name/best fight for him....they avoid that "type" if they think its an A/B level guy

good/great fighters should be able to solve that style if they are truly great

look at how he acted after the first canelo fight...he was begging canelo to stand in front of him

[AKAcronym]

goes back beyond jacobs too

when lara was calling for him and would have been best name/best fight for him....they avoid that "type" if they think its an A/B level guy

good/great fighters should be able to solve that style if they are truly great

look at how he acted after the first canelo fight...he was begging canelo to stand in front of him

When should the Lara fight have happened?

[Curt Henning]

When should the Lara fight have happened?

before jacobs....and lara was calling for it before that....

abel told him to go to 160 and get in line..loeffler said he brought no money or interest from fans....

[AKAcronym]

before jacobs....and lara was calling for it before that....

abel told him to go to 160 and get in line..loeffler said he brought no money or interest from fans....

Right...yet he was asked on camera as far back as 2015 if he would fight at 160 and he said 154...154...154. Shouldn't he get the same **** Golovkin gets for never moving up, despite saying he'll fight this guy and that guy? I don't give a **** what Loeffler and Sanchez said, even though DeCubas is no saint himself regarding the situation.

[Curt Henning]

Right...yet he was asked on camera as far back as 2015 if he would fight at 160 and he said 154...154...154. Shouldn't he get the same **** Golovkin gets for never moving up, despite saying he'll fight this guy and that guy? I don't give a **** what Loeffler and Sanchez said, even though DeCubas is no saint himself regarding the situation.

he said specifically that hed move up for a golovkin fight....he didnt say "anyone at 160"....the way golovkin said "anyone from 154-168"....then his fans said he only meant certain guys.....lara said hed move up for a golovkin fight...loeffler also said that he was a "showtime fighter" and lara even came back and said he had no deal and was on a fight by fight basis and was free...to which loeffler started singing the "brings no money and no fans" excuse

he mentioned golovkin as far back as 2014/early 2015

"I understand he feels like he is on a superstar stage, but Erislandy Lara has been calling out Golovkin for a year now.”

https://www.************.com/2016/01...or-a-year-now/

[AKAcronym]

he said specifically that hed move up for a golovkin fight....he didnt say "anyone at 160"....the way golovkin said "anyone from 154-168"....then his fans said he only meant certain guys.....lara said hed move up for a golovkin fight...loeffler also said that he was a "showtime fighter" and lara even came back and said he had no deal and was on a fight by fight basis and was free...to which loeffler started singing the "brings no money and no fans" excuse

he mentioned golovkin as far back as 2014/early 2015

"I understand he feels like he is on a superstar stage, but Erislandy Lara has been calling out Golovkin for a year now.”

https://www.************.com/2016/01...or-a-year-now/

That "anybody" quote was amended ****ing years ago. And like I said, he may have mentioned Golovkin that far back, but he was also asked in March of 2015 if he would fight at 160 and he basically said no. Golovkin said he'd move up for Froch and Chavez at the time too, yet didn't and it criticized heavily for it. DeCubas started bringing up purses too and and started with 7 figures when he wasn't even making that until 2018, while Golovkin didn't get his first million till 2015. We can talk all day about who said what and all that ****, but if Lara's team was that interested in a fight, they would have formally reached out. Promoters will go back on what they say if they money is good enough. I wanted the Lara fight years ago and wish they pursued it but it obviously never happened. Acting as if it was Lara's side that truly wanted it is a stretch. If you want something that bad, you make an offer.

[Curt Henning]

That "anybody" quote was amended ****ing years ago. And like I said, he may have mentioned Golovkin that far back, but he was also asked in March of 2015 if he would fight at 160 and he basically said no. Golovkin said he'd move up for Froch and Chavez at the time too, yet didn't and it criticized heavily for it. DeCubas started bringing up purses too and and started with 7 figures when he wasn't even making that until 2018, while Golovkin didn't get his first million till 2015. We can talk all day about who said what and all that ****, but if Lara's team was that interested in a fight, they would have formally reached out. Promoters will go back on what they say if they money is good enough. I wanted the Lara fight years ago and wish they pursued it but it obviously never happened. Acting as if it was Lara's side that truly wanted it is a stretch.

golovkin was headlining on hbo and being pushed heavily...he was picking opponents.....they made it known they were interested.....golovkin wasnt fielding offers from guys like lara he was making them.....it was on golovkins team to make an offer...which is why it didnt happen

which is why loeffler went from saying lara was a showtime guy to then saying he didnt bring money or fans...

[AKAcronym]

golovkin was headlining on hbo and being pushed heavily...he was picking opponents.....they made it known they were interested.....golovkin wasnt fielding offers from guys like lara he was making them.....it was on golovkins team to make an offer...which is why it didnt happen

which is why loeffler went from saying lara was a showtime guy to then saying he didnt bring money or fans...

Ok, so taking all of that into account and what DeCubas has said about Lara's purses, how do you think negotiations would've went if Golovkin/Loeffler offered Lara a fight back in 2015? What would be a reasonable offer?

[Curt Henning]

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-talks-lara-april-return-monte-carlo--74624

feb 2014

“It’s well known that Gennady Golovkin—when he fights in the United States—is under exclusive contract with HBO,” Loeffler points out. “Lara is with Golden Boy and fights on Showtime. So while he is a great fighter for whom we have a tremendous amount of respect, the bottom line is that HBO is our biggest strategic partner and it’s up to his promoter to get him accepted by HBO.

“The strange thing is that his name never really came up. His insistence took us by surprise. It’s not that Gennady doesn’t want to fight him—he’ll fight anyone and continues to prove that. But we were looking at fighters who we know can and will fight on HBO.”

loeffler later went on to say that lara brought no money for fans while golovkin fought can after can for a few years when lara would have been the best name and fight for him

[Curt Henning]

Ok, so taking all of that into account and what DeCubas has said about Lara's purses, how do you think negotiations would've went if Golovkin/Loeffler offered Lara a fight back in 2015? What would be a reasonable offer?

i couldnt tell you...what i do know is golovkins team wasnt interested...and hid behind a network excuse....then a money/fan issue....when neither really held any weight especially since he fought cans for a couple of years

but as usual...golovkin does no wrong and no one can ever admit any sense of hesitance on his part to do anything...hes just an atg legend that was willing to fight everyone