Comments Thread For: Klitschko's Trainer: Wilder Did Not Get Knocked Out, He Did Get Dropped

[Mario040481]

Better to be dropped by Vlad than Joey Davjakhov or whatever...not that either should matter. But Christ, people seem to disregard just what Vlad was, what he did to guys. Even in some of his more boring fights he cracked dudes to bits

[Tyistall]

You do know that Wilder and Wlad had the same management right?

You also know that Wlad retired right? Because you said this is why Wilder will never fight Wlad at the moment it’s impossible.
Unless you know something I don’t.

IMHO I’m sure Shelly Finkle was just trying to keep the fight from happening for several reasons especially if you’re building at that point the relatively unknown one and milking the other well known established champion.

But you said agenda and your agenda is to discredit Wilder for some reason just like the Robbie Barrett character.

I don’t care about agendas of people I don’t know but it is annoying when certain people come on boxing websites to only discredit one particular fighter in order to prop up another by any means necessary.

Wlad has been put to sleep by worst fighters with less power than Wilder as has AJ and Whyte. But this is boxing and one punch can change history especially with the heavyweights.

Also you should never disrespect a man for doing something which you dont have the heart not ability to do what he’s doing yourself.

Riiight so with all that being said, Wilder never fought Haye, either Klitschko brother, Povetkin, Whyte, AJ or any of the best heavyweights in the last 6 or 7 years. That's not discrediting him, those are facts. And each time he ducks one of these boxers, he comes up with a new excuse. The so called "baddest man on the planet" will fight the Szpilkas and Arreollas, but not the best of the best. That's cowardice, not something to praise as a heavyweight champion. Also, you know nothing of me. I played pro basketball for 11 years and I was a bouncer for 8 years after that. I have had more than my share of fights and I know a coward when I see one, or at least a guy who won't fight someone he will lose to. Wilder has no heart. If he did, he would have jumped at the 120 million and unification. There is no way around that sort of ducking.

[Tyistall]

I’m not exactly a Wilder fan, although I am proud he’s American. But I don’t think he’s a fraud. He’s a top-10 all time puncher but not near the complete boxer-puncher Klitschko was. He also IMO would have lost a landslide UD to the Fury that beat an aging Klitschko. Wilder did not fight that version of Fury.

How can he be an all time top ten puncher, when he's faced horrible opponents for most of his career? If he beat all the hall of fame boxers in the last 6-7 years, then I would be the first to give him props but he's been protected big time. Fury is feather-fisted and Ortiz was never the boogeyman that they tried to make him out to be. These were Wilder's biggest opponents. All while skipping out on Povetkin, Haye, the Klitschkos, Whyte, AJ and others. Think about that for a second...he hasn't fought ONE of these guys. That's like the 49ers saying that they are the Super Bowl champs, but chose not to play in the NFL playoffs. They just beat all of the bad teams during the season. The point is to play the game and prove it, right? Same thing with boxing, you have to beat the guy to say that you are better. And Wilder repeatedly chooses to not fight the better opponents. That's cowardice and ducking, neither of which I can support in this sport.

[uppercut510]

wow a boxer got knocked down in sparring, this is news to me...

[texasboi15]

The beast that dropped Wilder.

BWaHaahaHA!!

[Amir Imam]

I’m not exactly a fan of either Wilder or Fury’s style of fighting, or some of their odd statements. But the version of Fury that fought Wilder is not the same one that fought Klitschko. TBH, Wilder fought a Fury who is only 70% of what he was before (******* will do that to you — look at Sweet Pea’s career before and after), and Fury fought an aging, slipping Klitschko as well.

Wilder is best heavyweight right now. Fury was best heavyweight in 2015, but he threw it all away. And Klitschko was best heavyweight for the decade before him.

Stop lying Fury had 2-3 tuneups before he fought Wilder. He skipped drug testing up until a month b4 the fight vada and Sulamain had to threaten him just to get him to test. He was 110% and loaded with Peds AGAIN. He cheated in the Wlad fight also.

[OldTerry]

I guarantee the sparring was stopped, which is a KO.

Wlad isn't the kind of guy to go looking to hurt his opponent in sparring either, so it won't have been anywhere near his best shot.

This is why Finkel was calling Wilder a 29 year old "baby" he didn't want to put in with Wlad.

Ok Robbie, using your reasoning Fury was knocked out against Wilder. Your biased is obvious and there is no way your opinions can be called creditable.

[OldTerry]

I’m not exactly a Wilder fan, although I am proud he’s American. But I don’t think he’s a fraud. He’s a top-10 all time puncher but not near the complete boxer-puncher Klitschko was. He also IMO would have lost a landslide UD to the Fury that beat an aging Klitschko. Wilder did not fight that version of Fury.

Let's be honest, Fury didn't actually fight Klitschko or Wilder for that matter. What he did is engaged in not-engaging which is a survival tactic.

[OldTerry]

He ducked Wlad. That's official. Even though Wilder was the WBC champion, he wasn't ready to face Klit according to his team. Thats just a fact.

It's odd how opinions become facts.

[Fire4231]

I guarantee the sparring was stopped, which is a KO.

Wlad isn't the kind of guy to go looking to hurt his opponent in sparring either, so it won't have been anywhere near his best shot.

This is why Finkel was calling Wilder a 29 year old "baby" he didn't want to put in with Wlad.

WTF are you talking about?