It’s strange that fans forget that fighters have to agree on fights. I don’t think either wilder or Ortiz were ever fearful or unwilling to fight these eastern champs, but they haven’t come over here for the task. However these fighters have lined up for Joshua bc he is a payday. Does Joshua get credit for beating a long list of highly ranked fighters? Yes. But does this list make him better than wilder who doesn’t get the same opportunities? That remains to be seen.
Why Pulev Would Be Wilders Best Win
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The opportunity was AJ himself , Wilder refused no less then 3 offers , one was claimed to be very fair from Finkel which was 15 million I saw the quote but the 100 million wasn’t ?It’s strange that fans forget that fighters have to agree on fights. I don’t think either wilder or Ortiz were ever fearful or unwilling to fight these eastern champs, but they haven’t come over here for the task. However these fighters have lined up for Joshua bc he is a payday. Does Joshua get credit for beating a long list of highly ranked fighters? Yes. But does this list make him better than wilder who doesn’t get the same opportunities? That remains to be seen.
There is no need of a list if Wilder thought he could win ,take out the guy who is a top list guy they say you can’t defeat ?
There has to come a point in time when grown men simply can’t agree to the insanity Team Wilder puts out there though it’s a thought his fan base is about 20”s on here . HaComment
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Other than UK fanboys, I don't think there's a single person on the planet that would consider beating Pulev in 2020 a bigger win than beating Ortiz in 2019 or in 2018.Ortiz is older then Pulev and when you lose by knockout at an advanced age the same thing is bound to happen with the same fighter .
Pulev best recent win was in late 2018 against still young prospects like Hughie Fury , Ortiz was Hammer a guy who is not known for high skills but taking punishment and Ortiz where he was bleeding and eating right hands ,what are you talking about making like Ortiz is a world beater compared to Pulev ,not to mention Pulev has a win over him in the amateur ranks which someone relayed to me and you guys talk about Ortiz amateur pedigree to reinforce him ? HaComment
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You already posted that to the other poster and failed to counter what my post stated , you also ignored Pulev has a win over Ortiz who is labeled a dangerous fighter because of that amateur pedigree but want them to be night and day , why ? HaComment
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I didn’t counter my own post ? Why would I counter it ? You posted to me with the same post you had to someone else ? This is why spammers should be banned like you . Ha
You did nothing but retreat on my questions and failed once again to dispute any comment I made ?Comment
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Why would someone counter what they wrote ? Unless they are arguing with themselves ? I asked and. Stated simple facts which were ignored by you .
And I have trouble reading so here it again ? Ha
“ Ortiz is older then Pulev and when you lose by knockout at an advanced age the same thing is bound to happen with the same fighter .
Pulev best recent win was in late 2018 against still young prospects like Hughie Fury , Ortiz was Hammer a guy who is not known for high skills but taking punishment and Ortiz where he was bleeding and eating right hands ,what are you talking about making like Ortiz is a world beater compared to Pulev ,not to mention Pulev has a win over him in the amateur ranks which someone relayed to me and you guys talk about Ortiz amateur pedigree to reinforce him ? “
You did nothing but state to another poster of no reason why Ortiz is better then Pulev and reposted it but my post above gave that reason ? HaLast edited by REDEEMER; 01-23-2020, 11:02 PM.Comment
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Fact is no one knows what offers were made, we know what has been put in the media. Both sides claim to be tired of the ducking. I’m sure both sides deserve some of the blame for the delay.The opportunity was AJ himself , Wilder refused no less then 3 offers , one was claimed to be very fair from Finkel which was 15 million I saw the quote but the 100 million wasn’t ?
There is no need of a list if Wilder thought he could win ,take out the guy who is a top list guy they say you can’t defeat ?
There has to come a point in time when grown men simply can’t agree to the insanity Team Wilder puts out there though it’s a thought his fan base is about 20”s on here . Ha
This conversation is about Ortiz v Pulev and I feel like there’s an argument to be made for Pulev being better than Ortiz but they both are beneath the level of wilder and Joshua so who cares?Comment

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