Why Pulev Would Be Wilders Best Win

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  • Articulateboxin
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    #31
    I think Pulev has a better resume but I think the fight would probably be quite uneventful with a SD win either way. Ortiz has a nicer variety of punches and would likely labor to a victory. I'm not sure why my mind holds Ortiz in higher regard than Pulev, the dude's literally lost once and beaten a decent fighter in Fury as an example.

    Pulev doesn't do a lot for AJ's record, mostly because of peoples perception but I think he's better than that, just nothing like the killer Hearn will make him out to be prior to the fight

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      #32
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      Wilders best win is no doubt Luis Ortiz .

      Let’s see how he got the win and under what condition :

      Ortiz reported age was 38 when fought Wilder in 2018 .

      He did not pass a pre fight exam and his best win was three years prior to that .

      Ortiz top wins are Jennings , Hammer and Allen .


      Pulev stands 6”5 and has one of the best jabs who knows how to shut cagey fighters down . He has wins over Chisora, H. Fury and Thompson who lost to Klitschko before age caught up after Pulev defeated him in 2013 at 42 .


      Both share poor resumes and have taking soft touch fights throughout the careers but it’s just focused on one guy not the other .

      Here’s Ortiz opposition before facing Wilder both times .

      1.A : Allen : Basically a 10 fight prospect coming off a loss .

      2. B : Martz ,maybe the worst boxer at Heavyweight .

      Second Fight .

      1. A .kaufmann Off one fight win streak.

      2. B . Hammer

      Neither guy amounting more than a two fight win streak prior .



      Pulev Opposition prior to Klitschko.

      1. A : Abel off a one fight win streak .

      2. B :Perkovic on a two fight losing streak.

      Keep in mind he defeated Ustinov who was undefeated in 2012 , Dimitrenko and Thompson already mention around this time .


      The best win for either is Chisora and Jennings which not included overall resume still only adds to a who defeated who gives edge to Pulev who only lost to ATG Klitschko.



      Wilder has never defeated anyone with a true solid amateur standout achievements .Yes Ortiz has vast experience but Pulev was one of the best amateur fighters but we ignore it and bring up irrelevant things like Cuban background ? Ha



      Pulev isn’t the most exciting but he’s more effective ,younger so you guys continue to use age only prove yourselves wrong, he’s sizeable and conserves energy ,he would be a problem for Ortiz he would also be more bragging rights for Wilder who has controversial health issues .

      Thoughts ?
      - -Ain't fighting...Duh!

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        #33
        Originally posted by Articulateboxin
        I think Pulev has a better resume but I think the fight would probably be quite uneventful with a SD win either way. Ortiz has a nicer variety of punches and would likely labor to a victory. I'm not sure why my mind holds Ortiz in higher regard than Pulev, the dude's literally lost once and beaten a decent fighter in Fury as an example.



        Pulev doesn't do a lot for AJ's record, mostly because of peoples perception but I think he's better than that, just nothing like the killer Hearn will make him out to be prior to the fight
        - -Drinkin' ain't thinkin'.

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        • SN!PER
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          #34
          Pulev was never considered good. Even in 2014, Shannon Briggs was clowning Wladimir for fighting Pulev.

          You can hear him at 0:16 saying, "You fightin bums!" "Who's Pulev, champ?" "Who's Pulev??"

          There's just no way you can build this into a good fight in 2020. It's really bad.

          Usyk would be a good fight, but instead AJ has chosen to fight Pulev.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
            Pulev was never considered good. Even in 2014, Shannon Briggs was clowning Wladimir for fighting Pulev.

            You can hear him at 0:16 saying, "You fightin bums!" "Who's Pulev, champ?" "Who's Pulev??"

            There's just no way you can build this into a good fight in 2020. It's really bad.

            Usyk would be a good fight, but instead AJ has chosen to fight Pulev.

            Wilder said Usyk is to small but offered Bellew a fight before AJ right in the same arena AJ was at and declining to step in the ring ? Come on now we know who acts like a clown .

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              #36
              TBRB matters until it doesn't fit the narrative.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                TBRB matters until it doesn't fit the narrative.
                Drinking early ?

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                • Marchegiano
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  Drinking early ?
                  No one here believes you're too ****** to understand why I'd point out TBRB used to be used to validate your narratives.

                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  You can use Official rankings all you like but the only unbiased one is the Transnational
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Pulev is not, nor has ever been, ranked as high as Ortiz in the TBRB rankings.

                  Redeemer responds with? Not a ****ing thing, so I brought it up too.


                  TBRB mattered until Joshua fought unranked Ruiz and got KTFO then moved on to the 9th ranked Pulev...coming off of wins at 9 while Ortiz is ranked at 6 coming off getting KTFO.

                  Why is that?

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                  • REDEEMER
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano
                    No one here believes you're too ****** to understand why I'd point out TBRB used to be used to validate your narratives.






                    Redeemer responds with? Not a ****ing thing, so I brought it up too.


                    TBRB mattered until Joshua fought unranked Ruiz and got KTFO then moved on to the 9th ranked Pulev...coming off of wins at 9 while Ortiz is ranked at 6 coming off getting KTFO.

                    Why is that?
                    I don’t even know who you are referring to ,it’s like you have conversations with yourself on here ?

                    According to the TBRB Wilder has only fought one guy in the top ten in title defenses and it was a guy everyone knows is way past it and a year older then the first fight .

                    Show me a post where I said tbrb doesn’t count want another ban bet ? Ha I may follow up on this one it’s getting old now ? Ha

                    Edit : Wilder fought 2 top ten guys with Fury but he has only one win with a top ten guy since we are using that ranking system .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-23-2020, 09:21 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano
                      No one here believes you're too ****** to understand why I'd point out TBRB used to be used to validate your narratives.






                      Redeemer responds with? Not a ****ing thing, so I brought it up too.


                      TBRB mattered until Joshua fought unranked Ruiz and got KTFO then moved on to the 9th ranked Pulev...coming off of wins at 9 while Ortiz is ranked at 6 coming off getting KTFO.

                      Why is that?
                      Yeah dude Redeemer is just upset that Ortiz is more respected than Pulev. The IBF ranking Pulev #1 when he isn't ranked higher than 9th by any other ranking body is suspect.

                      AJ used to be the one fighting top 5 guys. Now its Wilder. An embarrassing loss has made AJ soft.

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