Do Wilder fans even want AJ v Wilder?

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Joshua fans are mad that Joshua/Pulev isn't being talked about like Wilder/Fury I guess?


Nobody told your boy to quit against unranked Andy Ruiz lol

Cool story. However, AJ v Pulev will pull bigger numbers than Fury v Wilder.

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You just quoted what I wrote. Why are you blatantly lying about it?

I said if Wilder wins, Fury had the right to an immediate rematch. So Wilder wouldn't be able to fight Joshua unless Fury declined the rematch, something Wilder can't control.

I’m quoting your lie ? Wilder isn’t available which is the lie you posted in reference to Hearn/ AJ making offers which any legit insider knows you plan ahead for your client ,that time would be now with contracts and at least offers in the event it lines up . Ha

Wilder would be available after Fury if he wins , stop lying .

Fury having a right to an immediate rematch doesn’t mean Wilder isn’t available just like the first fight they had ,if you weren’t just spamming the forum you could have tricked people with more effort .

[The Big Dunn]

What makes you think the deal was made before Ruiz/Joshua 2?

The Wilder/Fury 2 fight was a done deal according to both parties months before Josh/Ruiz 2.

You really think they agreed to do a trilogy after December 7 because Joshua has mandos and wasn't going to fight them anyway?

Wilder's people apperantly have a crystal ball according to his fans. First, rejecting 100 million was a good move because they knew Joshua would lose to a fighter Joshua wasn't even about to fight then, now they make trilogies because they predicted he'd beat a guy who knocked him out and have mandos. Lol

Yes Szef. Once AJ lost to Ruiz you know his plans changed. Now instead of being able to take care of one mando in 2019, he had to get the belts back, which pushed back those title defenses into 2020. If you're Arum and Haymon you obviously realize this and then plan accordingly.

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Yes Szef. Once AJ lost to Ruiz you know his plans changed. Now instead of being able to take care of one mando in 2019, he had to get the belts back, which pushed back those title defenses into 2020. If you're Arum and Haymon you obviously realize this and then plan accordingly.

So you saying Wilder was ready to jump at the chance to fight Joshua but circumstances changed that and so Al Haymon had to plan accordingly?

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Deontay the ducker.

the facts dont support your premise. joshua asked for 50 million and when it was offered to call his bluff, joshua ducked the fight.

joshua offered a low ball flat fee and when wilder accepted to call his bluff, joshua ducked the fight.

having been ducked multiple times, wilder has moved on and is fighting fury twice in 2020, a fighter rated higher than joshua by most experts.

if wilder was ducking, he would fight someone rated lower than joshua, not someone rated higher.

your position clearly doesnt make any sense.

[Szef]

Yes Szef. Once AJ lost to Ruiz you know his plans changed. Now instead of being able to take care of one mando in 2019, he had to get the belts back, which pushed back those title defenses into 2020. If you're Arum and Haymon you obviously realize this and then plan accordingly.

But they didn't know he'd win. The entire boxing world was 50/50 on the outcome of the rematch.

Plus, if Ruiz had won, the PBC would now own all the belts. You think Haymon would let Wilder fight Fury, the fighter who beat him according to everybody but judges instead of having a unification with Ruiz which would make much more money than the fury fight due to ruiz's Mexican heritage and would be a much more winnable fight for Wilder than fury 3?

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Not as bad as I did in early 2019.

Wilder has unfinished busy with Fury. Joshua has Usyk and Pulev to take care of. Let them handle their business. When the dust settles, if they are the two men left standing then lets get it on!

[The Big Dunn]

LOL. B+ for effort but only a C- for execution. You can throw as much salt at the Brits as you want but the Brits just want the fight and you keep defending Deontay the ducker. Id rather be all that that you said than have to go through all the effort you have to go through to try defend all these ducks. But im not hurt at Ruiz beating Joshua, Its Boxing. You tried hard but you talked bollocks.

If it didn't bother you, this response and the large volume of threads wouldn't exist. It definitely bothers you guys.

I asked you point blank which move would you respect more and you posted keeping the belts. You "want" the fight but for some reason expect Wilder to sign to fight on dazn, against a fighter promoted by a dazn owner, that has a dazn network deal.Sorry but that isn't likely going to happen.

The top 2 HWT's in the world are set to fight February 22, 2020. The duck will be on his way to Turkey.

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Fury having a right to an immediate rematch doesn’t mean Wilder isn’t available

if Charlo makes an offer to Rosario right now, Rosario can't accept because he's unavailable due to Williams having the right to an immediate rematch. Until Fury declines the rematch option, Wilder is contractually unavailable.

I write fight contracts every day for a living. Please let me know what your experience is in this area. Thank you.

[The Big Dunn]

But they didn't know he'd win. The entire boxing world was 50/50 on the outcome of the rematch.

Plus, if Ruiz had won, the PBC would now own all the belts. You think Haymon would let Wilder fight Fury, the fighter who beat him according to everybody but judges instead of having a unification with Ruiz which would make much more money than the fury fight due to ruiz's Mexican heritage and would be a much more winnable fight for Wilder than fury 3?

They didn't have to know he'd win. They put together a contingency plan assuming the favorite would win. If Ruiz won, no big deal because Haymon has final approval over Ruiz and Wilder so he can easily make that fight.

No, IMO I don't think Wilder/Fury happens if Ruiz wins, which is why the fight wasn't signed and officially announced until it was.

Szef, you know how this works at the top levels. There a plans laid out for 1-2 years at a time. AJ losing unexpectedly surely altered those plans. Now the other guys orbiting around him change their plans.

Now we have AJ who has the belts back. He fights twice, makes huge paydays, re establishes himself and then we get back on track.