Comments Thread For: For Fighter of The Decade, The BWAA Got it Right

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • The Big Dunn
    Undisputed Champion
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Sep 2009
    • 69380
    • 9,518
    • 7,853
    • 287,568

    #231
    Originally posted by Skyway71
    Well the fact Floyd brought in his own expensive Drug testing agency over NSAC and imposing it on Manny isnt like the demands what other fighters in the past has done. Floyd never imposed that kind of demand with previous fighters before that until his first fight with an Asian boxer. So I cant blame the asian fans of Pacquiao exploiting Floyd's hypocrisy on OSDT when he broke so many rules.
    USADA isn't Floyd's own drug testing agency. They test in addition to NSAC because NSAC wasn't doing advanced olympic style PED testing. Also the promoter is required to pay for PED testing. Using USADA is like using VADA.

    I don't think Manny being Asian is why he asked for PED testing. Tyson asked Holyfield to take PED tests. Holyfield wasn't Asian.

    Fans were just mad Floyd asserted his power and control since he was the larger draw. Thats how it works

    Comment

    • Skyway71
      Contender
      Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
      • Jan 2019
      • 137
      • 8
      • 10
      • 4,485

      #232
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      USADA isn't Floyd's own drug testing agency. They test in addition to NSAC because NSAC wasn't doing advanced olympic style PED testing. Also the promoter is required to pay for PED testing. Using USADA is like using VADA.

      I don't think Manny being Asian is why he asked for PED testing. Tyson asked Holyfield to take PED tests. Holyfield wasn't Asian.

      Fans were just mad Floyd asserted his power and control since he was the larger draw. Thats how it works
      I stand corrected.

      But you have to admit that Floyd's OSDT demand backfired at him making him look su****ious.

      Comment

      • The Big Dunn
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Sep 2009
        • 69380
        • 9,518
        • 7,853
        • 287,568

        #233
        Originally posted by Skyway71
        I stand corrected.

        But you have to admit that Floyd's OSDT demand backfired at him making him look su****ious.
        o it didn't. He got manny to say no. worse, Manny's promoter, speaking for him, said he was "afraid of needles" even though he clearly had gotten tattoos.

        Look dude its really simple. Manny fans make the rules on this-if the rule is circumstantial evidence, innuendo, and guilt without positive tests, fine, then Manny, JMM and Floyd are all guilty. If it's facts and positive tests, then they are all not guilty.

        I'm fine either way.

        Comment

        • bojangles1987
          bo jungle
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Jul 2009
          • 41118
          • 1,326
          • 357
          • 63,028

          #234
          It makes sense that it would come down to who won the fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather did, and no one else surpassed him.

          Comment

          • Skyway71
            Contender
            Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
            • Jan 2019
            • 137
            • 8
            • 10
            • 4,485

            #235
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            o it didn't. He got manny to say no. worse, Manny's promoter, speaking for him, said he was "afraid of needles" even though he clearly had gotten tattoos.

            Look dude its really simple. Manny fans make the rules on this-if the rule is circumstantial evidence, innuendo, and guilt without positive tests, fine, then Manny, JMM and Floyd are all guilty. If it's facts and positive tests, then they are all not guilty.

            I'm fine either way.
            LOL. Manny afraid of needles with tattoos is not circumstancial evidence around PED. But Floyd breaking the protocol with IV infusions of OSDT procedures, the drug testing he introduced to Manny, is circumstancial evidence. Last I heard was Manny didn't say no to OSDT. It was Bob Arum who left the discussion cuz Floyd kept moving the goal post during negotiations. Then Manny offered a hold off date of 2 weeks during his strenuous training period of time before the fight and offered to get tested after the fight. So there is no foul play in that regard. However, can't say the same thing for Floyd. It seems he is the Lance Armstrong of Boxing.

            Comment

            • The Big Dunn
              Undisputed Champion
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Sep 2009
              • 69380
              • 9,518
              • 7,853
              • 287,568

              #236
              Originally posted by Skyway71
              LOL. Manny afraid of needles with tattoos is not circumstancial evidence around PED. But Floyd breaking the protocol with IV infusions of OSDT procedures, the drug testing he introduced to Manny, is circumstancial evidence. Last I heard was Manny didn't say no to OSDT. It was Bob Arum who left the discussion cuz Floyd kept moving the goal post during negotiations. Then Manny offered a hold off date of 2 weeks during his strenuous training period of time before the fight and offered to get tested after the fight. So there is no foul play in that regard. However, can't say the same thing for Floyd. It seems he is the Lance Armstrong of Boxing.
              Now your grading circumstantial evidence. LMFAO! Yeah dude, using "im afraid of needles" as an excuse not to take a drug test when you have tattoos is not a good look. refusing a drug or ped test is treated as a positive. I know you are aware of this.

              Moving the goalposts? Please stop. Look dude if you want to convict Floyd this way, be my guest. Just don't whine when the same thing is done to Manny.

              Like I keep posting, cheaters never win. Its why Floyd beat Manny when they fought.

              Comment

              • Skyway71
                Contender
                Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                • Jan 2019
                • 137
                • 8
                • 10
                • 4,485

                #237
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Now your grading circumstantial evidence. LMFAO! Yeah dude, using "im afraid of needles" as an excuse not to take a drug test when you have tattoos is not a good look. refusing a drug or ped test is treated as a positive. I know you are aware of this.

                Moving the goalposts? Please stop. Look dude if you want to convict Floyd this way, be my guest. Just don't whine when the same thing is done to Manny.

                Like I keep posting, cheaters never win. Its why Floyd beat Manny when they fought.
                No. I'm not grading. It's common sense. Floyd got caught doing something in violation to the shady drug testing agency he brought to boxing.

                Comment

                • The Big Dunn
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 69380
                  • 9,518
                  • 7,853
                  • 287,568

                  #238
                  Originally posted by Skyway71
                  No. I'm not grading. It's common sense. Floyd got caught doing something in violation to the shady drug testing agency he brought to boxing.
                  If you say so dude.

                  Comment

                  • hugh grant
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 30126
                    • 2,146
                    • 819
                    • 105,596

                    #239
                    Originally posted by Skyway71
                    No. I'm not grading. It's common sense. Floyd got caught doing something in violation to the shady drug testing agency he brought to boxing.
                    That win, flouds best win supposedly is just so controversial on so many levels, why not just give Pac rematch all those years back?
                    Floyd s fans response will be it wasn't close?

                    Comment

                    • Skyway71
                      Contender
                      Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                      • Jan 2019
                      • 137
                      • 8
                      • 10
                      • 4,485

                      #240
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      That win, flouds best win supposedly is just so controversial on so many levels, why not just give Pac rematch all those years back?
                      Floyd s fans response will be it wasn't close?
                      Not interested in that rematch as Floyd has been outta the game. Would rather see Manny take on the other ranked youngblood welters... giving them the chance to take the torch.
                      Last edited by Skyway71; 01-21-2020, 05:08 PM.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP