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  • The D3vil
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxing lives
    Let the kid atleast beat a solid contender before you start crowning him as the best. I'd like to see what he does against a Terrell Gausha type guy.
    This.

    Cats jump only any Eastern European or Cuban amateur & crown them before they've even got their dxck wet in their division.

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #12
      Originally posted by Boxing lives
      Let the kid atleast beat a solid contender before you start crowning him as the best.
      Why wait? Crawford is #1 P4P and he hasn't beaten a solid contender at 147.

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        #13
        Originally posted by revelated
        Why wait? Crawford is #1 P4P and he hasn't beaten a solid contender at 147.
        I'd say Jeff Horn was more than a solid contender at 147. So was Benavidez. Obviously the elite are pbc fighters and bud is getting frozen out for political reasons. Lets not pretend this kid has names anywhere near Horn or Benavidez on his resume. His career just started and he isn't even fighting fringe contenders yet. This isn't new. Remember a couple years ago when Sergey Rabchenko was the future of this division and being crowned as the best by people here before proving anything? How did that work out? Atleast Rabchenko has a bunch of pro fights before people started saying stuff like that. Madrimov at 4-0 knocking out the likes of Norberto Gonzalez just doesn't scream best in the division to me. Call me crazy.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing lives
          I'd say Jeff Horn was more than a solid contender at 147. So was Benavidez. Obviously the elite are pbc fighters and bud is getting frozen out for political reasons. Lets not pretend this kid has names anywhere near Horn or Benavidez on his resume. His career just started and he isn't even fighting fringe contenders yet. This isn't new. Remember a couple years ago when Sergey Rabchenko was the future of this division and being crowned as the best by people here before proving anything? How did that work out? Atleast Rabchenko has a bunch of pro fights before people started saying stuff like that. Madrimov at 4-0 knocking out the likes of Norberto Gonzalez just doesn't scream best in the division to me. Call me crazy.
          According to NSB, Horn is a bum. A bum that can't box.

          If that's true, then Horn can't be that much better, if at all, than Frank Rojas...?

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            #15
            Horn 'the dog' is interested in this thread, just like he dogged Packy he just may dog some of these pretenders. If they will get out of their present comfort zones and forget the trash talk and ducking and have a real go.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Satir
              They are not necessarily the best, just current title holders, there's always someone who's better, to me Madrimov is the current best at this division
              I'm very high on Madrimov, but he's still green in the pro circuit. The way he pushes out of clinches instead of using his body and fighting on the inside. I think he got warned about pushing multiple times in his last fight. There are lots of subtle differences between pro and amateur, and that's why guys need to have a few tune ups first.

              But yeah, Very high on the kid, he will do big things this year, and should be title ready in 2021 (he would have been ready last year with Munguia lol)

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              • Boxing lives
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                #17
                Originally posted by revelated
                According to NSB, Horn is a bum. A bum that can't box.

                If that's true, then Horn can't be that much better, if at all, than Frank Rojas...?
                Frank Rojas could never hang a decision over Pacman under any circumstances like horn did

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Satir
                  They are not necessarily the best, just current title holders, there's always someone who's better, to me Madrimov is the current best at this division
                  Ok...........................

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxing lives
                    Frank Rojas could never hang a decision over Pacman under any circumstances like horn did
                    Dunno. I mean maybe if Manny sits texting on his phone during the presser, Rojas beats him.

                    Anyway, NSB says that Horn never beat Manny. To the point a lot of cats turned on Crawford for saying that Horn's win was legit.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      Dunno. I mean maybe if Manny sits texting on his phone during the presser, Rojas beats him.

                      Anyway, NSB says that Horn never beat Manny. To the point a lot of cats turned on Crawford for saying that Horn's win was legit.
                      And yet he really mauled pacman that night. One of Pacs most damaging fights win or loss. He didn't even take that much damage against Margarito!

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