Well that is three Marciano trashing threads you have on the board at the same time. Why are you so mad at Rocky. He died young in a plane crash a long time ago and did you no harm.
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostMarciano fought 26 guys coming off losses .
Fought 10 guys over 200 pounds bc most guys many WERE under it but you'll still pretend he's a giant killer .
Fought 6 guys with one or two win streaks .
Fought 9 guys with winning fights in their prior six without dropping one .
He accumulated 6 title defenses in 3 years time that 2 fighters per year rounding it up and you claim todays champs don't fight enough ?
Lastarza had a little over 30 fights before fighting Marciano and 22 coming off losses , 9 with no more then two fight win streaks and only 3 guys capable of stringing together over 4 consecutive that's why he was the best prospect, why would he lose fighting those guys ?
His best Win was Moore who was 39 years old ( you guys seem to talk a lot about age on here ? ) and over 60 fights by then .
His second best was Louis at 37 way off his fight weight ,
His Third best was Walcott who was 38 . Marciano won because it was stopped in round 13 which is miles for someone of 38 then .This fight actually resemble the Wilder vs Ortiz situation where Ortiz should have won the first and everyone knew he was done going into the second one with a puncher .
Marciano wasn't protected at least late in his career ,hes just lucky he had guys with swiss cheese resumes where everyone was losing as winning and no actual dominant HW like Liston emerged yet who would look like a real HW . But keep on talking about this and that era of modern times like someone wont know taking multiple losses to average guys in Marcianos era wasn't a norm?
These guys wouldn't even be allowed to fight the top guys today and Marciano would be FORCED to learn the jab and would have to think real hard if he wanted to be CW even .
I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY on here eventually ,you asked for it you GOT it now....
A 5” 10 midget who has no jab how far does he go today ? Lol
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You make such a big ***ing deal out of Marciano not being a jabber. He had very short arms and a jab would have been a ****** punch for him to use much. Instead he threw bombs with both hands in incredible numbers. He threw more power punches every round than almost any of today's heavyweights. Guys who fought him talked about what a nightmare it was getting hit so often by all those very hard punches round after round. Ali sparred with him when he was many years done with his career and was amazed at his power and how good he was and he said so.
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He doesn't match up well with other historic great HWs, but he was still a monster, and a hell of a fighter for his time. Relentless, and a punishing fighter to be in the ring with. Can't take away form his accomplishments.
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Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View PostHe doesn't match up well with other historic great HWs, but he was still a monster, and a hell of a fighter for his time. Relentless, and a punishing fighter to be in the ring with. Can't take away form his accomplishments.
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Originally posted by Feroz View PostMarciano seems like a relatively small heavyweight by modern standards, his frame is not even comparable to natural Cruiserweights like Opetai and Usyk who stand at 6'2"-6'3".
He'd do modern weight training that is quite removed from the heavy weight loss training fighters used back in the day. He'd definitely own some belts and retire on his own terms as he did back when.
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Anyone can write propaganda Juggie. Watch:
Marciano beat the HW champion, the HW champion before him, and the HW champion before him, the LHW champion, the IBU champion, the British champion, the inventor of rope-a-dope, and the 81-3 multi-weight division star from the west making him the most dominant champion in history.
3xs Fighter of The Year
3xs Fight of The Year
Y'all dumb so I'll just tell you, not many champions in history can match Marciano in both fields. Example, Dempsey has 3 fight of the year and 0 fighter of the year.
Only undefeated HW champion in history
Longest win streak in HW history
KO'd the man with the most KOs in history
KO'd the man with the most title defenses in history
6-0 against Hall of Famers
Highest KO ratio of any retired champion.
Out of 49 fights Marciano achieved 43 KOs, 25 of which would result in a retirement five fights or less from the Marciano fight. Meaning most of the men who ever fought Marciano were knocked out and the majority of those knocked out would quit the sport not long after.
Also the only HW champion in history to be the same age as a competitor while having less than half the experience being presented like an unfair advantage rather than an extreme disadvantage.
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