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  • DClefthook
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    #11
    Originally posted by Wolfie*
    Orozco and Herrera are both better opponents than boots has on his resume. If you don't think so, you don't know boxing. Who has boots fought that are on that level?
    Ok Ok fair game. I'll cede the point that Orozco is better than anyone on Boot's record, but Herrera is just the guy GBP brings in to make their guys look good. He's fought a lot of good fighters and lost to all of them. So no he is not better than anyone on Boot's record. But now going forward they both have to step it up. The only problem is Boots has a myriad of welterweight fights to improve while Virgil has none. Damn he needs to come to PBC. HAHA

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    • NORMNEALON
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      #12
      Originally posted by Wolfie*
      Orozco and Herrera are both better opponents than boots has on his resume. If you don't think so, you don't know boxing. Who has boots fought that are on that level?
      Dont forget Brad Solomon

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      • DClefthook
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        #13
        Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
        Boots is cool an all but with all those clean punches to the head he was taking the other night hes isn't going to be "dominating" anything anytime soon...
        When you turn your head with the punch it is not clean. Boots never got hit clean. The best one that does this now is Canelo. You can never get a good clean punch on him because he turns his head with every punch. He learned everything from the Mayweather fight. I know you guys hate to hear that but it is what it is.

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        • Bronx2245
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          #14
          WBC #6 Josesito Lopez or WBA #4 Jamal James! One of y'all please MAN UP!

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          • Realizniguhnit
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            #15
            Originally posted by DClefthook
            When you turn your head with the punch it is not clean. Boots never got hit clean. The best one that does this now is Canelo. You can never get a good clean punch on him because he turns his head with every punch. He learned everything from the Mayweather fight. I know you guys hate to hear that but it is what it is.
            Boots said himself that he took too many punches.....

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            • SteveM
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              #16
              Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
              Boots said himself that he took too many punches.....
              He said he took punches to force the KO. When you fightas an aggressive pressure fighter forcing the pace then you will get hit sometimes - no two ways about it.

              If you want to fight off the back foot and counter you can avoid it.

              In this particular fight Ennis HAD to fight aggressively in the pocket if he was going to get the stoppage. Why? Because that opponent has a teflon chin and only by hitting him 30/40 times a round was he ever going to slow down - damn! he was the definition of durable. You hit him with 10 power punches a rd he wasn't going anywhere (see his previous fight) and so Ennis would have been taken to a decision .... and then all the smart a55es on this forum would be saying he's not all that and he has no power.

              SMDH - you can't win with boxing fans - either way you're screwed

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              • uppercut510
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                #17
                he soon will get tons of hate....

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                • Realizniguhnit
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SteveM
                  He said he took punches to force the KO. When you fightas an aggressive pressure fighter forcing the pace then you will get hit sometimes - no two ways about it.

                  If you want to fight off the back foot and counter you can avoid it.

                  In this particular fight Ennis HAD to fight aggressively in the pocket if he was going to get the stoppage. Why? Because that opponent has a teflon chin and only by hitting him 30/40 times a round was he ever going to slow down - damn! he was the definition of durable. You hit him with 10 power punches a rd he wasn't going anywhere (see his previous fight) and so Ennis would have been taken to a decision .... and then all the smart a55es on this forum would be saying he's not all that and he has no power.

                  SMDH - you can't win with boxing fans - either way you're screwed
                  Whatever man, any of the top welterweights would have stopped that guy within 4 rounds or less.. People need to face the facts. Like I said, Boots is a cool young prospect but that's all he is at this point. From what I've seen of him he's not quite ready for the elite level yet. Best thing for him would be to call out another prospect like Ortiz not the top welterweights..

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                  • SteveM
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                    Whatever man, any of the top welterweights would have stopped that guy within 4 rounds or less.. People need to face the facts. Like I said, Boots is a cool young prospect but that's all he is at this point. From what I've seen of him he's not quite ready for the elite level yet. Best thing for him would be to call out another prospect like Ortiz not the top welterweights..
                    Gotta respectfully disagree that they are prospects. They're both contenders according to my eye test -contenders without a defining win. So yeah, on paper they are prospects still, but on ability they are contenders ready for a title challenge, if not next fight then the fight after.

                    They will never fight each other at this stage. That's not how boxing works.

                    Danny Garcia is a contender. Ugas is a contender. I'd be confident that Ennis and Ortiz both beat those two. Maybe not easily but they'd do it

                    Ennis is going to find it increasingly difficult to get fights with the way his promotion is(n't) set up - he needs to put major pressure on his management team to hook up in a co-promotional deal with Tom Brown ofPBC or similar. Ortiz is in the same boat but I think GBP 've got more palanca.

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                      #20
                      Andre Berto or Miguel Cruz next !

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