Whyte: 'I saw Wilder getting knocked out!'

[Curt Henning]

That's exactly what the other guy told me, which is just made up bull****. After I post a reference you gonna run along or continue to converse I wonder?


Anyway, the first bit of made up bull**** is the manager position. I didn't say Shelly was ever Wlad's manager because he wasn't. That should be your first clue, you've been lied to, or, you do **** research, take your pick. Finkel is Wlad's advisor.

Shelly was Wlad's advisor, look you at this 2010, ESPN, Fat Dan article:

https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael...blasts-hbo-lie

The reason: Klitschko and his team, namely manager Bernd Boente and adviser Shelly Finkel, say HBO promised it would air the fight on Sept. 11 and that they had agreed on a price ($250,000 to show the bout on same-day tape delay).

Okay, now that you know Shel was advisor to Wlad not manager let's address this 2010 retirement lie.

Look you at this 2012 ESPN Dan Rafael article, two years after "Shelly retired"

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-tony-thompson

Heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko will make his 12th title defense in a rematch against mandatory challenger Tony Thompson on July 7 after the sides made a deal Monday, Klitschko adviser Shelly Finkel told ESPN.com.


Hmmmm......very retired huh? Making fights and talking to the media.




So, me ol'pal Juggies, are you lied to, do you do poor research, or do you suffer cognitive dissonance?


Edit- I noticed, late of course, but it's a bit funnier if I leave it as if you called him manager. You understand. Either way, retired in 2010 did he?

juggerfgt is one of the biggest PsOS on this site....

[juggernaut666]

That's exactly what the other guy told me, which is just made up bull****. After I post a reference you gonna run along or continue to converse I wonder?


Anyway, the first bit of made up bull**** is the manager position. I didn't say Shelly was ever Wlad's manager because he wasn't. That should be your first clue, you've been lied to, or, you do **** research, take your pick. Finkel is Wlad's advisor.

Shelly was Wlad's advisor, look you at this 2010, ESPN, Fat Dan article:

https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael...blasts-hbo-lie

The reason: Klitschko and his team, namely manager Bernd Boente and adviser Shelly Finkel, say HBO promised it would air the fight on Sept. 11 and that they had agreed on a price ($250,000 to show the bout on same-day tape delay).

Okay, now that you know Shel was advisor to Wlad not manager let's address this 2010 retirement lie.

Look you at this 2012 ESPN Dan Rafael article, two years after "Shelly retired"

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-tony-thompson

Heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko will make his 12th title defense in a rematch against mandatory challenger Tony Thompson on July 7 after the sides made a deal Monday, Klitschko adviser Shelly Finkel told ESPN.com.


Hmmmm......very retired huh? Making fights and talking to the media.




So, me ol'pal Juggies, are you lied to, do you do poor research, or do you suffer cognitive dissonance?


Edit- I noticed, late of course, but it's a bit funnier if I leave it as if you called him manager. You understand. Either way, retired in 2010 did he?

I said around 2010 and I never said Finkel wasn't around Wlad but he was not employed by him its why he wasn't involved in making the deal with the Joshua fight ,even if hes in the ring he was left out by Hearn to actually make the fight, we know this because neither have ever sat down and discusses boxing because Finkel deems them a waste of time ? . lol


You idiots can continue to talk up Finkel like he is a manager but we all know Bustamante made those decisions a good part into Wlads second career going in with Steward not a PART time financial advisor .

[Marchegiano]

I said around 2010 and I never said Finkel wasn't around Wlad but he was not employed by him its why he wasn't involved in making the deal with the Joshua fight ,even if hes in the ring he was left out by Hearn to actually make the fight, we know this because neither have ever sat down and discusses boxing because Finkel deems them a waste of time ? . lol


You idiots can continue to talk up Finkel like he is a manager but we all know Bustamante made those decisions a good part into Wlads second career going in with Steward not a PART time financial advisor .

What does any of this have to do with the idea Shelly wasn't part of Wlad's team when Wilder called out Wlad?

You realize Wlad-Joshua is full two years after Wilder-Wlad conversations were taking place right?

I dunno what Finkel not being his manager has to do with Finkel clearly throwing one of his wards under the bus to protect another.

See you this 2015 article from our own website:

https://www.boxingscene.com/team-kli...october--90802

The champion's adviser, Shelly Finkel, says Fury is the likely opponent for Wladimir in the fall and there is a very good possibility of the fight taking place in the challenger's backyard. Klitchsko has not fought in the UK since 2000, when he beat Monte Barrett at Millwall's New London Arena.


That article is written during the time when Wilder was trying to get Wlad or Fury to fight him rather than each other.

What does Joshua two years later have to do with it?

What does Wlad's team not having been apart of Wlad-Joshua deals have to do with Wlad's team in 2015?


The 2010, or abouts, lie is just a lie, give it up. You've lost this point, pivot to your other points.

[_Rexy_]

Why are you arguing with Juggs? He's the one who knocked Wilder out, and he'll knock you out too!


HE'LL KNOCK ALL OF US OUT!!!!

[Duckweather]

Has anyone ever asked wilder or wlad if this is true?

[Kezzer]

I think we all already knew this and why wilder ducked Klitschko. It’s not really a surprise.

What I would say is we know wilder has (in the last two years) begun to take on tougher opposition so maybe had Klitschko still been around now would have considered a fight in 2021?

Obviously he isn’t and with both Fury and Joshua having beaten him at a much younger age is one of the reason his resume looks inferior at this moment in time.

[thabanga510]

And when Wlad a came back he chose to fight Joshua over Wilder. Just like Martin and Parker.

[Curtis Harper]

Its heavyweight boxing bro , dont say that . Any night on any fight this could happen, dont jinx your man , he is riding high .and although hes the underdog I've got him stopping fury ( but I'll be rooting for the comebacking gypsie admittingly ) . But literally wilder should be the top heavy in the world going by official results . Dont jinx that . He can be koed just like any other heavyweight ( except maybe andy Ruiz, that kid has shown one hell of a set of whiskers , if anyone could take wilders power besides fury it's this kid ).

I try to keep myself focused on the here and now. Until a mf'er gets ko'd, he's not going to be ko'd. Can anyone get stretched ??? That remains to be seen.

What I'm 99.9999999% sure of is Fury will not be the guy to ko Wilder.

[NORMNEALON]

I try to keep myself focused on the here and now. Until a mf'er gets ko'd, he's not going to be ko'd. Can anyone get stretched ??? That remains to be seen.

What I'm 99.9999999% sure of is Fury will not be the guy to ko Wilder.

I think it's safe to say you are right , fury ain't stopping wilder. Watch us both eat crow for this .....lol lighting strikes .

[Curtis Harper]

I think it's safe to say you are right , fury ain't stopping wilder. Watch us both eat crow for this .....lol lighting strikes .

They ko each other ????