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  • PBR Streetgang
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    Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
    Boxing isn’t always about who is the best puncher, a short stroll down boxing memory lane proves that. Had it been 10 or 12 rounds, Billy Conn and his feather fists would have made history....
    No doubt, boxing is most often not about the bigger puncher but power does matter.

    LSC at his best was a 118/122lb volume puncher. He's never been Willie Pep (or Billy Conn). He would take shots but the "terremoto" would take over. He was still good at 126 but is not the same at 130 and now he will be facing a guy who is a heavy handed fighter who has difficulty making 135.

    If LSC's skillset was that of a more elusive boxer, his chances would be better. But we aren't comparing LSC to Billy Conn (nor are we comparing Tank to the Brown Bomber).

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  • _Maxi
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    Originally posted by Pantera_ View Post
    If Davis drops down to 130 where Leo is champion then nobody should be complaining. That's just a title defense for Leo. 135 is a mismatch though I agree.
    Why would he move down if he just moved up to 135 and barely made weight :/... does he want to fight Loma or not?

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  • Satir
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    Wow, there are actually some dudes who support and defend Davis like crazy for this fight being made, lol, you look ridiculous people

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  • Bronx2245
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    Originally posted by Bronx23 View Post
    Rigo begged for that fight not the other way around & he got what he asked for. Plus it was free on ESPN

    Not to mention size wasn't the determining factor in that fight. Rigo got completely & utterly outboxed and quit without taking any physical punishment. Just outclassed and embarrassed

    Tanks team wants this fight with Leo because of its low risk- high reward. If the Mexicans support Leo the way they expect them to they'll use the success to further push their narrative that Tank is the biggest "star/draw" in their own little world
    LSC has been talking about fighting Tank even before he beat Flores! It was LSC that said he would even go to 135 to fight him! GRJ called out Tank too! So if he fights either one, just remember it was them who called for the fight, just like Rigo! If you weren't mad at Loma, don't be mad at Tank! If you don't want to pay to see the fight...DON'T!

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  • MEXICAN STYLE
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    Santa Cruz FTW !

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  • Bronx2245
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    Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View Post
    No one was asking for that fight until Rigo and his devoted loser fan base were mocking and harassing Loma for months to make this fight.

    The odds makers also apparently believed Rigo was some sort of a threat because Loma was only a -300 favorite. Lets see the odds with LSC. LSC a guy whos not a puncher and ducked Rigo and GRJ, but going for a payday execution.
    Well, in this case, it's LSC that's asking for this fight! I'm not mad at him! Just because others think he can't win, HE DOES! I'm not mad at Tank either, because LSC does have a fanbase that supports him, so this will be a big event, no matter who wins!

    I think LSC is making a mistake if he goes up to 135, but if Tank has to make 130, I like the fight! I would rather LSC fight GRJ @ 130 first, winner gets Tank! I would rather Tank fight Berchelt, Farmer, or Jo Jo Diaz, but it is what it is! Haney just had surgery, Loma is fighting Teofimo Lopez, so i'll accept LSC.

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  • whitevick
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    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
    Isn't Cruz a bogus belt champion of some sort at 130?
    Yes, he is. He has a bogus belt that Davis vacated in order to fight for another bogus belt at 135.

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  • kiaba360
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    Originally posted by GreatRubdini View Post
    Did Abner Mares retire? Whatever happened with Davis vs Mares?
    https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/11/...ry-boxing-news

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  • Bronx23
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    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    Did you have a problem with Lomachenko vs. Rigondeaux?
    Rigo begged for that fight not the other way around & he got what he asked for. Plus it was free on ESPN

    Not to mention size wasn't the determining factor in that fight. Rigo got completely & utterly outboxed and quit without taking any physical punishment. Just outclassed and embarrassed

    Tanks team wants this fight with Leo because of its low risk- high reward. If the Mexicans support Leo the way they expect them to they'll use the success to further push their narrative that Tank is the biggest "star/draw" in their own little world

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  • The Big Dunn
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    Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post
    He isn't even cracking that amount, he can sell tickets but that is different from PPV buys, nobody is intrigued by this fight. He doesn't have the fanbase for his name alone to sell. He is likely to do 125k to 175k and that my friend is what we call a flop. So you are saying Canelo had faster hands than Khan? He doesn't so that was an advantage in Khan's favor.

    Outside of Canelo/Khan those mentioned were not $75 to watch were they? If your first PPV is against a FW when you have a loaded division at the weight you currently fight at this a sad fight to make.
    we will not know until the numbers are in. You might be right, you might be wrong. Obviously, his people see something.

    I'm saying Khan had no chance to win . His hands being faster is irrelevant because Canelo was so much bigger and powerful. The same way Canelo's hands are faster than Wilder's but wilder would knock his head off.

    None of the fights, including Canelo/Kahn, were PPV worthy or should've cost what they did IMO. yet, they all met or exceeded sales expectations.

    Your opinion on the quality of the fight is correct, but like those I mentioned it isn't about competition as much as it is putting the name in a fight they should dominate.

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