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  • #11
    Originally posted by thabanga510 View Post
    Well Parker and Martin chose to fight Joshua over Wilder. They wanted no smoke with that right hand.
    yeah im sure it had nothing to do with money and wilder turned down 100 million so i guess he didnt want that smoke with joshua.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
      DAZN must’ve pressured Hearn and AJ to get the Wilder fight going, no way they keep paying him that crazy money with those type of performances and fighting unknown Euro fighters!

      This time come correct to the negotiations table with the champ!

      -50/50 split
      -two way rematch clause 1st fight in America and second in UK biggest stadium
      -Las Vegas stadium(Raiders new stadium or whoever wins the venue site bid)
      - equal split on backend money
      -Winner in first fight gets 60-40 split in rematch
      -No Jack Reiss, Terence O’Connor, Ian John Lewis, Robert Byrd, or Foster as referees

      Being all of that AJ to the table and we got ourselves a super mega heavyweight undisputed fight for the ages!
      (Also depends if Wilder beats Fury)
      Name those Euro fighters AJ fights that Dazn is tired of paying him the big money for ?
      You can't name them because AJ fought none
      You're just a Trolling fool
      You're an Casual Fan for sure
      Get a life!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by FreezeIzGawd View Post
        BWAWAWAWAWAWAWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

        I love this. You talk about controlling a narrative. You have had TWO UNIFICATION FIGHTS Sir. The first one was against Wlad who at the time didn’t HAVE A TITLE.....

        There you won the WBA and IDGAF belt. Then you had a unification bout against Parker who Wilder openly called out and begged to fight but ran to you for the money.

        So in all honesty you have had one true unification fight against another Champion and you won that by decision in a BORING FIGHT that you still haven’t rematched the Ex Champion with.

        The thing is you and a bunch of your Union Jack boys will honestly try to make this stand up......

        BOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYY STOPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!

        YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHYT UP!!!!

        https://www.fightsports.tv/wilder-ch...-summer-fight/
        Google is your friend
        Wilder had 38 fights
        Still No Unifying
        What happened?
        Oh yea Shelly Finkle said he wasn't ready yet
        Last edited by greeneye99; 01-02-2020, 01:17 AM.

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        • #14
          How can fighting inactive klitschko coming off an L be a unification . When something unifies it is two coming together, in a boxing sense two champions coming together to leave one as the unified holder. They were vacant belts. He won a paper title against martin who is a bum and won via injury(furys vacated belt) and then a none belt holder in klitschko. One unification against Joseph Parker, his first fight to go 12 rounds, he was given a biased heavy dominant UD decision at home when the first 6 were close. Parker was a paper champion who won via hometown decision against Andy Ruiz. So really AJ would have been knocked out in his first unification fight had he fought the rightful claimant to the title(Andy ruiz-WBO)
          Its nothing to try belittle feel champions fury and wilder about really, though it is an impressive feat for his lack of experience and doing it in so little fights, the mitigating circumstances need to be taken into consideration and history is always looked at under a microscope contrary to popular belief that just the W on the record counts.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
            Anthony Joshua’s clout chasing just makes this whole thing worst for him. He didn’t unify AJ because you were ducking the man. Didn’t AJ have the other belts? In addition he beat Wilder out for the Parker Fight because at that time he was a big attraction.

            In other words this is stupid. What Wilder has done is continue to fight the very best. Something AJ is clearly not doing.

            That is more meaningful than chasing a fight with a hollow champion holding the titles hostage.

            AJ needs to stop trying to establish superiority through credentials. After getting pummeled by Ruiz it’s just not believable.

            The only way to prove he is the best is to fight the best. My guess is he will be fighting the Pulev’s of the world for sometime making distractive statements like this to save face.
            Lolololol
            This Casusl fan's post is soo funny
            *Wilder continues to fight the best?
            Wilder fought unproven Luis Ortiz twice & Stiverne twice
            Those are the best?
            Tyson Fury was a Draw
            That's the best he fought in about 40 Fights
            Go away my friend go far away...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by SuperSuperLeeds View Post
              How can fighting inactive klitschko coming off an L be a unification . When something unifies it is two coming together, in a boxing sense two champions coming together to leave one as the unified holder. They were vacant belts. He won a paper title against martin who is a bum and won via injury(furys vacated belt) and then a none belt holder in klitschko. One unification against Joseph Parker, his first fight to go 12 rounds, he was given a biased heavy dominant UD decision at home when the first 6 were close. Parker was a paper champion who won via hometown decision against Andy Ruiz. So really AJ would have been knocked out in his first unification fight had he fought the rightful claimant to the title(Andy ruiz-WBO)
              Its nothing to try belittle feel champions fury and wilder about really, though it is an impressive feat for his lack of experience and doing it in so little fights, the mitigating circumstances need to be taken into consideration and history is always looked at under a microscope contrary to popular belief that just the W on the record counts.
              Multiple belts up for grabs is a unifying match that’s why it was a unification fight where 3/4 belts were on the line . You guys just love narrative bias it’s beyond comical now. Ha
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-02-2020, 01:21 AM.

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              • #17
                AJ is just slightly below wilder and fury, wilder is just slightly below fury. That's how I see. Fury top for klitschko win and wilder win/draw off of inactivity. Wilder 2nd due to longest reigning champion, prestigious WBC and string of fringe contenders and dangerous contender Ortiz all blitzed. And only man to put a serious dent in the enigma and current lineal champ and no.1 Tyson fury. Both fury and wilder have faced a fellow top 3, one of the big 3(eachother). AJ third due to having taken an L and not facing a fellow big 3. But his string of decent contenders that he's beaten and belts he holds puts him above the rest by miles and close to the top two who are near inseparable. But all 3 have arguable claims to supremacy, there near to eachother. I just understand what wlad and his reign meant and the weight of Tysons vicyory in dusseldorf and the magnitude of that is way above what either of the other two have done..quality over quantity.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by SuperSuperLeeds View Post
                  How can fighting inactive klitschko coming off an L be a unification . When something unifies it is two coming together, in a boxing sense two champions coming together to leave one as the unified holder. They were vacant belts. He won a paper title against martin who is a bum and won via injury(furys vacated belt) and then a none belt holder in klitschko. One unification against Joseph Parker, his first fight to go 12 rounds, he was given a biased heavy dominant UD decision at home when the first 6 were close. Parker was a paper champion who won via hometown decision against Andy Ruiz. So really AJ would have been knocked out in his first unification fight had he fought the rightful claimant to the title(Andy ruiz-WBO)
                  Its nothing to try belittle feel champions fury and wilder about really, though it is an impressive feat for his lack of experience and doing it in so little fights, the mitigating circumstances need to be taken into consideration and history is always looked at under a microscope contrary to popular belief that just the W on the record counts.
                  You called Parker a paper Champion
                  What type of Champion was Stiverne?
                  Wilder fought him twice..
                  Luis Ortiz beat no Top 10 ranked boxer
                  Wilder fought Tyson Fury who had drug problems & still didn't beat him
                  Dispute these Facts on Wilder's resume like how you dispute AJ resume
                  I'll wait .......

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                    Multiple belts up for grabs is a unifying match that’s why it was a unification fight where 3/4 belts were on the line . You guys just love narrative bias it’s beyond comical now. Ha
                    I call it a champion fighting for vacant titles against a contender. And that's what it is. Why do u want to water down what a true unification is? I hear your point i really do but its just weak. Weak sauce. Two real champions now thats a unification. Porter vs Spence of recent recollection. Imagine if porter was beltless and the wbc just agreed to put the title on the line, it would be ripped to shreds if claimed to be a true unification.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post
                      You called Parker a paper Champion
                      What type of Champion was Stiverne?
                      Wilder fought him twice..
                      Luis Ortiz beat no Top 10 ranked boxer
                      Wilder fought Tyson Fury who had drug problems & still didn't beat him
                      Dispute these Facts on Wilder's resume like how you dispute AJ resume
                      I'll wait .......
                      But Parker didn't even win the belt! He got a hometown decision like Jeff horn. So he robbed the belt and couldn't even beat hughie fury clearly. He defended the belt (the ****test of all the belts the WBO) against trash opppnents over in OZ. Then sold it to AJ. How wasn't he a paper champion? At least stiverne knocked the **** out of Chris Arreola, a better Arreola, Arreola who would probably take Parker 12 this day! Arreola went 12 with vitali cmon he's a dangerous man Parker carries no power. He's a runner.


                      Luis Ortiz knocked the snot out of bryant Jennings, much better victory than when wlad fought him in Jennings previous fight..Ortiz was unanimously recognised as a dangerous top contender and a lot of people picked him to beat wilder in the first fight. So I don't know what you're talking about you must of missed the memo on that one, Tyson fury himself said Ortiz is a boogeyman. We all knew Ortiz, a southpaw , Cuban amateur, decent power, savvy. Trouble for anyone.

                      And as for furys condition, fury is fury, a great fighter , the lineal heavyweight champion the man who beat the man, he was coming in off of two warm up fights and is dangerous any day of the week especially on Sundays,apparently.
                      He's top 3 in the world so how can you laugh and mock. AJ has yet to fight one of the fellow big 3 yet you mock wilder for having a great fight with fury. Cmon

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