PBC cheered for killing big fights, others mocked for trying to make them... why?

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  • TheMyspaceDayz
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    #21
    I first noticed the trend a little over ten years ago. Mayweather hid behind politics so often that people had to up their game to see through his lies. Not to be outdone the Mayweather fanboys learned it as well. Now you see people arguing over paydays like it’s their money. Floyd messed this sport up a little bit in a lot of ways and this is one of em. It’ll take a few more years for the Mayweather smell to clear the room.

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    • TheMyspaceDayz
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      #22
      Jesus, I’m still buzzing. Gonna leave that there and return to clarify later

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      • ThatDude44
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        #23
        PBC sent Andy Ruiz to DAZN for a fight so why couldn't Farmer come to FOX for a fight or does everyone have to bow to DAZN. PBC offered Farmer 2 mil. Hearn said if he offered Davis 12 mil he'd give Farmer 4 or 5 mil but he offered Tank 5 which means PBC would've been paying Farmer more. Why couldn't Farmer fight on FOX or Showtime?

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        • rickJen
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          #24
          Originally posted by maguirre
          Some fans are just happy to play blame games. To me if the fight fans want to see doesn't happen, I blame both camps, it takes two to tango. It's not called negotiations for nothing. If it doesn't happen, then tell your idol promoters, networks, managers, fighters to try again and make adjustments, etc.
          Yeah, I always find myself cringing when fanboys keep rehashing the $50 million offer.
          Fight still didn't happen, yet they behaved as if it's something
          to celebrate about with huge placards paraded in the streets.
          "Fight didn't happen, yeheey! Let's go and party..." Kills me.
          They always skip the part where Hearn was denied a meeting to hash out details.

          And now we hear Deontay saying things like DAZN being dishonest
          about the $100 million offer. And Shirley wanting to know first how much AJ would be making.
          The same exact thing he hated and denied Hearn of doing.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #25
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Has anyone else noticed this trend? I find it to be really disturbing.

            The narrative used to be “boxing fans are fed up with boxing politics.” Now it seems like fans cheer on a promoter when they fully engage in it.

            PBC seems to be the biggest offender of this. Top Rank doesn’t seem to have a problem sending fighters over to DAZN at all while PBC seems to have a huge problem with it. Top Rank also has been willing to negotiate with PBC on certain fights but PBC won’t negotiate at all.

            Examples:

            None of the PBC fighters at 122 or 126 ever unified or looked for unification fights.

            DAZN offered Gervonta Davis a career high payday to fight Tevin Farmer. He turned it down to fight a 40 year old on another subscription platform. Now it looks like he’s going to fight a featherweight on a $75 PPV card. People cheered that Davis didn’t need the Farmer fight instead of hoping for what would be the most competitive fight of Davis’ career.

            Top Rank pushed for Lomachenko-Garcia and Golden Boy pushed for Linares-Garcia. Garcia said no to both by insisting both fights needed to be on showtime and fought lesser names at and around his weight. He eventually moved up to 147 and got blown out on a $75 PPV card. This was cheered on instead of fans hoping for the best fights at Garcia’s division.

            Top Rank has been trying to make Spence-Crawford happen. Instead Spence fought a lightweight and a guy who had already lost to the best champions at 147. It looks like Spence is being lined up to fight another guy who lost to multiple welterweights who are better than him. This is cheered on instead of fans hoping for the two best at the division and two top 10 p4p fighters facing each other.

            Jermall Charlo was offered $7 million, a career high payday, to unify against Demtrius Andrade at 160. Charlo has been fighting nobodies. He’s being lined up to fight Eubank, who clearly isn’t an elite fighter. Fans are already excusing him for not fighting Andrade in anticipation that it won’t happen instead of cheering for a unification.

            None of the 168 pounderS on PBC are seeking unifications, while the ones on DAZN are looking to unify against each other or fight Canelo. No one cares.

            Adonis Stevenson held the 175 pound lineal title and wbc title hostage for years. Kovalev, the guy who managed to win the other three titles, was blamed by PBC fans. When Stevenson finally lost, his title was immediately unified.

            PBC fans cheered when Deontay Wilder turned down insane money that would have resulted in an eventually undisputed title shot.

            The common narrative here: we don’t need them and they need us! Wtf, don’t they all need each other to make the best fights? Isn’t that what we should want?
            This is disgraceful. You blame everything on pbc and their fans. This is extremely biased.

            Nothing about Canelo or Loma requesting the emeritus designation to avoid Haney and Charlo. Nothing about Top tank signing fury and blocking the wilder/fury rematch for a while. Nothing about TR blocking the manny/ Crawford fight.

            Why are you only angry at PBC and not at any other entity when they do things that hurt the sport?

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            • PAC-BOY
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              #26
              All promoters do it. Its called protecting their investment. Milking the tit dry. Some fighters go on to become legends of the sport. Some are marketed into the casual fan perspective of entertainment. PBC does put on some good fights and has a good quality of fighters. We all wish their can be a 50/50 fight and a commission that mandates a rule of who fights who. And if all the sanction bodies would just go away and fight for one belt and be one champ a lot of this protecting fighters resumes and marketability would be gone.

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              • Floyd is TBE
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                #27
                TC acting like he ain't the biggest **** rider here. You're a ****ing fraud, TC.

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