Lomachenko: Tank and Floyd are businessmen. Not athletes

[The Big Dunn]

Oh I dont know BUT apparently you do?

Listen to Lomachenko. Listen to how he talks about himself, his values, boxing/opponents etc and compare that to the trash some of you posters love.

His values are same values a lot of asian traditions grow up with which is something someone like you and Goldie could NEVER understand.

You think the Black culture in America raised their kids with the same values as traditional asian cultures? Or even Ukrainian?

Lomachenko in 2020 is ****ing confused how a dog can have millions of followers on Instagram and make their owner millions when people like him and others can hone their craft for years and not make anything.

That's the kind if guy Lomachenko is.

You're so hung up on that franchise title because you want so hard to beleive Lomachenko is scared of Devin Haney.

That's it. You cling so damn hard onto that because that fits your agenda.

You claimed falsely that Lomachenko asked for it and that there are SEVERAL sources claiming that but provided NONE. This very own site claimed Top Rank asked for it.

Would you like to prove otherwise? You know because you were there in his camp too huh?

I call you a racist because you'll regurgitate **** like

"Why did loma get a title shot in his 2nd fight when all these black fighters dont! Boxing hates black people!"

You can low key it all you want but you're not that sly. You WISH you could just say what you wanted. I respect that you dont thoughbecause I would hate you as much as I hate that Goldie *****.

Why are you making it a cultural thing?

I don’t believe Loma is scared of Haney. I only know the move he made . It was bad for the sport. You make all these statements about his values and the type of man he is then you should be ok calling him out for this.

Now you are saying it was top rank as if Loma had no say in the matter. You keep providing him cover. Why?

I never posted anything like that. Why do you insist on judging people based on race and culture rather than actions?

You have some real issues. You probably shouldn’t hold people you don’t know in such a high pedestal.

[Ca$ual Fan]

Are you one of those people that screamed that Loma was scared of Rigo and wanted no smoke of it and after the fight screamed Loma was a weight bully and that W got him no credit? Get your facts straight. Loma explicitly said that he would get absolutely 0 credit for fighting Pacquiao and he thought there was no legacy in beating a fading fighter. It was a lose-lose for him. Two scenarios:

1. He beats Pac - Pac was washed, too old, Loma is feasting on old timers.
2. Pac beats Loma - Hype is over. Even old washed Pacquiao has beaten him.

As far as Garcia, there is nothing to discuss. Garcia himself dodged the discussion about the fight himself and said he didn't care about it.

Haters will always have different point of views. No matter what the case is, they always find a reason to hate

[STREET CLEANER]

Luke gave him a good fight to be fair, I’d like to see tank or Haney match up with him.

Surprisingly he did.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Why are you making it a cultural thing?

I don’t believe Loma is scared of Haney. I only know the move he made . It was bad for the sport. You make all these statements about his values and the type of man he is then you should be ok calling him out for this.

Now you are saying it was top rank as if Loma had no say in the matter. You keep providing him cover. Why?

I never posted anything like that. Why do you insist on judging people based on race and culture rather than actions?

You have some real issues. You probably shouldn’t hold people you don’t know in such a high pedestal.

I'm not making it a cultural thing.
I'm saying your CLEAR lack of understanding about his culture and how he was raised reflects on your ignorance.

How did he do anything bad for the sport in that regard?

The only thing that changed was now people could claim Lomachenko was ducking because he "vacated ".

He is still the TOP champ on the WBCs list of ****** titles.

And please, do I need to talk to a person every day to know what kind of person they are? No.

Maybe if you really listen to what a person says and watch what they do you'll get a hint.

Take Mikey Garcia vs Lomachenko.

They both claim it's for legacy and how did that turn out? I knew Mikey was a lying sack of **** far before any of his "fans" abandoned him.

I wonder. Were you team Mikey or team Lomachenko because I really do feel like I need to find out.

[satiev1]

Can you imagine what a 130-135 Floyd would have done to Loma.

He would have lost.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm not making it a cultural thing.
I'm saying your CLEAR lack of understanding about his culture and how he was raised reflects on your ignorance.

How did he do anything bad for the sport in that regard?

The only thing that changed was now people could claim Lomachenko was ducking because he "vacated ".

He is still the TOP champ on the WBCs list of ****** titles.

And please, do I need to talk to a person every day to know what kind of person they are? No.

Maybe if you really listen to what a person says and watch what they do you'll get a hint.

Take Mikey Garcia vs Lomachenko.

They both claim it's for legacy and how did that turn out? I knew Mikey was a lying sack of **** far before any of his "fans" abandoned him.

I wonder. Were you team Mikey or team Lomachenko because I really do feel like I need to find out.

Dude I don’t have to understand his culture. He is a professional prize fighter. If he wasn’t interested in money he’d have stayed and amateur and fought for whatever the government gave him.

Asking for a designation to avoid a mando is bad for the sport because it allows champions to circumvent opponents that earned a right to fight for the title. I shouldn’t have to explain that.

Mikey left TR because he could see the writing on the wall. He saw Arum was going to favor Loma. He didn’t want to be cotto, where his promoter puts him in a CW title defense to benefit the opponent.

Now Mikey ended up getting the short end anyway with the Spence fight so you can always question his move but I think anyone in Mikey”s position at Top tank would leave.

I like Mikey more than Loma but have Loma rated higher.

The issue here is your holdings Loma up as some kind of deity when he isn’t.

He makes moves that benefit him financially same as all other fighters at the top. The emeritus designation request was the 1st example of this.

Actually, you can argue not fighting Berchelt at 130 was the 1st example. Doesn’t mean he ducked him, just means that fight wasn’t part of top rank’s plan at the time.

[Shape up]

Loma loses credibility here because he and TR requested the emeritus designation so they could wait until the Lopez/commey winner and not have to defend against Haney.

I also recall Loma stating that from a business perspective top rank wanted Lopez to win.

This is professional boxing. If you aren’t focused on your business you aren’t doing it properly.

Show me something that says they requested it I asked, can you do that?

[Shape up]

Can anyone here actually do some diligent research and exercise some common sense? The info is not hard to find and decipher.

So you can’t find anything, you saying “decipher” only tells me you want to spin it to your way of thinking

[BoxingIsGreat]

Show me something that says they requested it I asked, can you do that?

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Rya45qoxg

Straight from Top Rank. They can't impose it on Lomachenko if he didn't want it. He must have agreed to it.

[Mister Wolf]

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Rya45qoxg

Straight from Top Rank. They can't impose it on Lomachenko if he didn't want it. He must have agreed to it.

Pretty damning evidence.