Loma or Lopez will destroy Tank

[daggum]

Lying, crying and capitalizing will not change the truth.

Manny turned the fight down on more than one occasion. He’s a man and made his decision. Stop justifying it and making excuses for him because you don’t like Floyd.

He could’ve fought Floyd before Floyd went to jail but instead elected to have unnecessary plastic surgery from Bobs son in-law. You always like to leave that part out.

Instead of $40 mil, no ppv he took a fight for $28 mil with the bulk of the ppv. You do the math.

When wilder turns down a deal for less, you call him ****** and a duck. When manny did the exact same thing instead of questioning his intelligence or bravery, you blame Floyd.

You’re bias is disgraceful.

yeah and instead of floyd taking 50-50 against pac for 200-300 million he took 30 million against guys like maidana, guerrero, ortiz, etc...whats more of a loss making 28 million plus ppv(so probably as much or more than 40) or making 30 million instead of 300 million? hmmm is it starting to add up yet for you? and you call me biased?

instead of questioning why floyd went from 50-50 to only offering a 40 million flat offer which you and everyone in boxing knew would kill the fight, you blame pac for not taking the offer instead of the guy who changed his demands? and you call me biased? stop making excuses for floyd. he got the testing he wanted and then he changed the money. fight killer. duck. why didn't he just fight after he got everything he wanted?

this offer confirmed he was a ducking coward because when they actually fought years later when pac was much less popular the split was 55-45 in favor of floyd. yet when pac was at the height of his popularity and selling the same amount of ppv's as floyd you expect him to take 40 millon no ppv? and you call me biased?

[Slicc]

Now, how many of you honestly believe Tank would prepare the same way for a fight against one of them as he did a 38 yr old former FW that lacked the power to hurt him?

The thing is, Tank's been missing weight against tomato cans ever since he beat Pedraza, who's levels below the elites at 135. This is only made worse by the fact that fight took place nearly 3 years ago. I'm not saying that he's doomed to fail, but those cab drivers he's been knocking out won't prepare him for real fighters.

My suggestion- hate all you want . But when judging the fight use the beat version of Tank we’ve seen because that is the one I expect will show up for that fight.

Idk about hate, but fair enough for everything else. Just understand that even if he does get his act straight, there's a lot of world level experience he's passed on, which could've helped him going into the top of his current division.

[The Big Dunn]

The thing is, Tank's been missing weight against tomato cans ever since he beat Pedraza, who's levels below the elites at 135. This is only made worse by the fact that fight took place nearly 3 years ago. I'm not saying that he's doomed to fail, but those cab drivers he's been knocking out won't prepare him for real fighters.


Idk about hate, but fair enough for everything else. Just understand that even if he does get his act straight, there's a lot of world level experience he's passed on, which could've helped him going into the top of his current division.

I understand all the criticism of Davis and he deserves it. I just believe if he wasn’t with Floyd and haymon there would be more emphasis put on the positives rather than the negatives.

How is he approaching 135 any different than Loma did?

Loma got to 135 and fought linares, Pedraza, Corolla and Campbell. That isn’t exactly a murderers row and includes Pedraza who Davis has already defeated.

Davis isn’t the best in the division by any stretch but he is very talented. The things he has to fix can be fixed.

I just don’t think it makes any sense to assume the worst version of tank we saw sat night will be the one we see all the time.

[The Big Dunn]

yeah and instead of floyd taking 50-50 against pac for 200-300 million he took 30 million against guys like maidana, guerrero, ortiz, etc...whats more of a loss making 28 million plus ppv(so probably as much or more than 40) or making 30 million instead of 300 million? hmmm is it starting to add up yet for you? and you call me biased?

instead of questioning why floyd went from 50-50 to only offering a 40 million flat offer which you and everyone in boxing knew would kill the fight, you blame pac for not taking the offer instead of the guy who changed his demands? and you call me biased? stop making excuses for floyd. he got the testing he wanted and then he changed the money. fight killer. duck. why didn't he just fight after he got everything he wanted?

this offer confirmed he was a ducking coward because when they actually fought years later when pac was much less popular the split was 55-45 in favor of floyd. yet when pac was at the height of his popularity and selling the same amount of ppv's as floyd you expect him to take 40 millon no ppv? and you call me biased?

Stop with the ret@rdation. Manny turned the fight down. Now you are covering him by saying well hey he made a counter offer.

Apply the same logic to Manny’s counter offer you do to the one Wilder made to AJ. You are very selective when it comes to the validity of counter offers.

Yes, you are incredibly biased because you keep blaming Manny’s actions on someone else.

The offer went down because manny kept refusing the fight. That’s not hard to figure out. Floyd isn’t required to offer manny a certain amount. He offered him more than he ever made.

Again, apply the same logic you do when discussing wilder turning down the most he ever made.

Manny took much less to fight jmm. That was his call. He tried to cherry pick another win rather than face the tougher fighter in Floyd. It backfired.

Although they both passed the post fight ped tests, the fact you say jmm was roided shows your bias. Why exactly didn’t manny have VADA or USADA PED testing for the fight? Hmmmmm???

When are you going to address the unnecessary plastic surgery after Nevada delayed Floyd going to jail once manny declared he was ok to fight ?

Manny’s greed and pride caused him to refuse the fight for years. The karma for that was a vicious ko loss in a fight where there was no advanced PED testing.

Nothing you post will ever change that.

[Slicc]

I understand all the criticism of Davis and he deserves it. I just believe if he wasn’t with Floyd and haymon there would be more emphasis put on the positives rather than the negatives.

If you really think fans dislike Tank based on his association with Floyd and Haymon, that tells me you haven't been paying much attention. Davis has talent, but nothing to show for it outside of a knockout against Pedraza in 2017.

How is he approaching 135 any different than Loma did?

You can't be serious... Linares was the #1 lightweight, and Loma beat him in his 1st fight moving up to that division. Linares would've done Gamboa like Prescott did Khan.

Loma got to 135 and fought linares, Pedraza, Corolla and Campbell. That isn’t exactly a murderers row and includes Pedraza who Davis has already defeated.

Loma's wins against Linares and Campbell are better than Tank's whole career up until now. Who has Tank beaten besides Pedraza?

[Squ□redCircle34]

A focused Tank who knows both opponents aren’t to be played with will knock out both Loma and Lopez into next week!

Gamboa fought to survive even if on one leg, both Lopez and Loma would come to win which would leave more opportunities for Davis to counter with explosive shots to the body or head!

I do agree he needs to stop loading around on his off time and should stay in the gym!

There were times where he looked disinterested and unsure, his teams needs to stay on him to stay in the gym and get him back to fighting good solid comp!

[soul_survivor]

Loma would make a mockery of Davis and expect that fight to never happen, or happen after Loma has aged significantly. I am not sold on Lopez and have not seen enough of him, so no idea what would happen there.

[The Big Dunn]

If you really think fans dislike Tank based on his association with Floyd and Haymon, that tells me you haven't been paying much attention. Davis has talent, but nothing to show for it outside of a knockout against Pedraza in 2017.


You can't be serious... Linares was the #1 lightweight, and Loma beat him in his 1st fight moving up to that division. Linares would've done Gamboa like Prescott did Khan.


Loma's wins against Linares and Campbell are better than Tank's whole career up until now. Who has Tank beaten besides Pedraza?

Come on slicc. His association with Floyd and haymon is a large part of it. He absolutely has been unprofessional but there are a ton of other guys that have done same and they aren’t subjected to the same level of criticism.

Linares was #1 in the division but does that mean the division is strong? The point is this was Tank’s 1st LW fight. The issue shouldn’t be the opponent but his lack of proper training and the performance.

That is absurd. I didn’t say Loma’s resume wasn’t better but Tank isn’t just fighting bums. That isn’t fair. The undefeated Pedraza can’t just be minimized after the fact. That is completely unfair.

There are reasonable criticisms of tank but we shouldn’t retroactively devalue his opposition just because he hasn’t fought Loma yet.

[Slicc]

Come on slicc. His association with Floyd and haymon is a large part of it. He absolutely has been unprofessional but there are a ton of other guys that have done same and they aren’t subjected to the same level of criticism.

He missed weight in 4 of his last 6 fights. There's unprofessional, and there's just plain not giving a fuck. Let's not downplay what Davis has been doing. Besides, maybe people wouldn't care as much about all this, if he wasn't marketed as some superstar in the making. You have May and Ellerbe to thank for that. Most of the criticism I've seen towards Tank was about his lack of professionalism and/or ducking.

Linares was #1 in the division but does that mean the division is strong?

I mean, Mikey Garcia stayed away from him and he dropped Loma. People need to stop underrating Linares.

The point is this was Tank’s 1st LW fight. The issue shouldn’t be the opponent but his lack of proper training and the performance.

It's not just the fact that he fought Gamboa, it's that Gamboa was the 7th bum on his record since Pedraza. Not only that, but he was handed another paper belt for it. His lack of training was the whipped cream and his performance, the cherry on top.

That is absurd. I didn’t say Loma’s resume wasn’t better but Tank isn’t just fighting bums. That isn’t fair. The undefeated Pedraza can’t just be minimized after the fact. That is completely unfair.

Bruh, Tank beat Pedraza in 2017. Who has he fought this year or last? Matter of fact, who has he fought since Pedraza? I'll give him a pass for Fonseca, because he was his mandatory, but there's no excuse for the rest of those cans.

There are reasonable criticisms of tank but we shouldn’t retroactively devalue his opposition just because he hasn’t fought Loma yet.

Loma wasn't the only guy calling him out at 130. Farmer, Machado and Berchelt also wanted the smoke, but Tank never even tried fighting any of them.

[Larry the boss]

so now ya'll rank Lopez?