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  • #31
    What a strange bloke....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      Andy Ruiz Junior is a threat, if he was not? Joshua would not of fought in the manner in which he did etc

      Not saying Ruiz Junior is the best heavyweight, but I believe he can really cause some chaos.

      Unfortunately in defeat I am not seeing the positive signs, that Joshua showed etc Is there any footage of Ruiz Junior in the gym of late? He has to show intention.
      Ruiz is 6 foot HW ,he’s a threat if you aren’t taking him serious,we all know AJ thought it would be a one and done knockout victim and didn’t train properly ,we all saw how little chance Ruiz would have if AJ gets guys in his camp like Ruiz ,the result would be the same .


      Ruiz is not in my top 5 ,maybe he’s in yours but I can name several guys who get a win on him , AJ is the number one HW for a reason and it will come down to him and Fury eventually .

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      • #33
        Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
        Ruiz is 6 foot HW ,he’s a threat if you aren’t taking him serious,we all know AJ thought it would be a one and done knockout victim and didn’t train properly ,we all saw how little chance Ruiz would have if AJ gets guys in his camp like Ruiz ,the result would be the same .


        Ruiz is not in my top 5 ,maybe he’s in yours but I can name several guys who get a win on him , AJ is the number one HW for a reason and it will come down to him and Fury eventually .
        The bold part is completely irrelevant, if a top boxing reporter used that as a reason to devalue Ruiz Junior? They would not be invited to any press conferences.

        Andy Ruiz Junior on performance is ranked in the top-5 heavyweights without a shadow of a doubt. It is not clear who is number 1 entirely 'But there is a top 5 which are as follows: Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury, Dillian Whyte, Andy Ruiz Junior etc

        If Andy Ruiz Junior was to fight Anthony Joshua for the third time 'Once again people within the boxing world, would be split right down the middle again' It would be a 50/50 fight. Anthony Joshua did not dominated or beat up Ruiz Junior in the rematch, he has not slayed the dragon completely.

        Even boxing pundits/experts such as Teddy Atlas & Paulie Malignaggi have pointed this out etc

        Note: I picked Joshua to win in the rematch, but I don't think he is the same fighter he was? Before he fought Ruiz Junior. Teddy Atlas has alluded to this, in one of his recent podcasts 'But I am well aware that Joshua winning the rematch, is stage 1 of his rebuilding process as a fighter'.

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        • #34
          If AJ cared about his fans, he'd have gone back to N.Y. and done the job right. As it is, they got to brag about how he outran a fat man in the woods. Go find some more back woods venues. AJ isn't ready for N.Y.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
            The bold part is completely irrelevant, if a top boxing reporter used that as a reason to devalue Ruiz Junior? They would not be invited to any press conferences.

            Andy Ruiz Junior on performance is ranked in the top-5 heavyweights without a shadow of a doubt. It is not clear who is number 1 entirely 'But there is a top 5 which are as follows: Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury, Dillian Whyte, Andy Ruiz Junior etc

            If Andy Ruiz Junior was to fight Anthony Joshua for the third time 'Once again people within the boxing world, would be split right down the middle again' It would be a 50/50 fight. Anthony Joshua did not dominated or beat up Ruiz Junior in the rematch, he has not slayed the dragon completely.

            Even boxing pundits/experts such as Teddy Atlas & Paulie Malignaggi have pointed this out etc

            Note: I picked Joshua to win in the rematch, but I don't think he is the same fighter he was? Before he fought Ruiz Junior. Teddy Atlas has alluded to this, in one of his recent podcasts 'But I am well aware that Joshua winning the rematch, is stage 1 of his rebuilding process as a fighter'.
            The bold part is not irrelevant because without quick feet and being so short it’s literally impossible for Ruiz to defeat a prepared AJ .

            People aren’t going to want to look foolish again ,no it won’t be split down the middle those saying Ruiz has his number probably wont even surface . What I did see even from Joshuas friends picking against him was a complete change of voice as though they knew he would win ? Ha



            It doesn’t matter what Atlas pointed out , he also said Ruiz cannot ever win if AJ boxes long so again the card your playing here isn’t selling.


            People were saying he couldn’t box ,but when he does he’s not the same ? How did this sole fight draw that conclusion because boxing 101 would tell you that he is evolving and can adapt to any style given enough time .

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            • #36
              Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
              The bold part is not irrelevant because without quick feet and being so short it’s literally impossible for Ruiz to defeat a prepared AJ .

              People aren’t going to want to look foolish again ,no it won’t be split down the middle those saying Ruiz has his number probably wont even surface . What I did see even from Joshuas friends picking against him was a complete change of voice as though they knew he would win ? Ha



              It doesn’t matter what Atlas pointed out , he also said Ruiz cannot ever win if AJ boxes long so again the card your playing here isn’t selling.


              People were saying he couldn’t box ,but when he does he’s not the same ? How did this sole fight draw that conclusion because boxing 101 would tell you that he is evolving and can adapt to any style given enough time .
              I picked Joshua to win, and stated that he was going to attempt to pull off a Lennox Lewis vs David Tua type performance.

              Joshua got the job done, but it was not a impressive big man styled fight 'I have already stated way quite afew times on here as to why etc' Joshua fought a Olympic styled scoring fight where he was only concerned with hitting the target, instead of hitting through the target' struggled to tie Ruiz Junior up, and his offense was just brushed aside most of the time 'Anthony Joshua knows this and it is still bothering him now as we speak'

              It was his greater conditioning and natural athleticism which won him the fight, but from a technical perspective? I would not really call it a master class at all 'Joshua does not seem to be able to tap into his attributes as well as Wladimir Kiltschko when fighting smaller fighters' But he is trying and learning so well done.
              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-27-2019, 01:38 PM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                I picked Joshua to win, and stated that he was going to attempt to pull off a Lennox Lewis vs David Tua type performance.

                Joshua got the job done, but it was not a impressive big man styled fight 'I have already stated way quite afew times on here as to why etc' Joshua fought a Olympic styled scoring fight where he was only concerned with hitting the target, instead of hitting through the target' struggled to tie Ruiz Junior up, and his offense was just brushed aside most of the time 'Anthony Joshua knows this and it is still bothering him now as we speak'

                It was his greater conditioning and natural athleticism which won him the fight, but from a technical perspective? I would not really call it a master class at all 'Joshua does not seem to be able to tap into his attributes as well as Wladimir Kiltschko when fighting smaller fighters' But he is trying and learning so well done.
                Wlad boxed for years as offensive first fighter vs shorter guys before jab and grab tactical fights he employed under steward with again much shorter guys well into a decade so why would AJ in one fight be compared to that ?

                The only reason why the fight went 12 is because of Ruiz chin,how many guys did Klitschko not knockout ?


                A master class is out boxing while doing damage ,don’t say there was none because AJs first right hand drew a cut .some of the slow motion clips showed the fat on Ruiz face going up and down with sweat and spit flying out of the ring but it’s not a master class ? O.K


                Good to know you speak to AJ ,what else is bothering him besides a shut out of Ruiz ? Huh...Ha
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2019, 01:51 PM.

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                • #38
                  How come Andy ruiz has done far more in his career than Luis Ortiz ever has done yet Ruiz is a bum and Ortiz is a monster? These wilder fans opinions seem to be paper thin at best. Same with how wilder is deserving of 50% against AJ. All the facts, figures and numbers scream otherwise but they insist. Fair play to him if he got it but there is a massive clear A side here and it ain't wilder.

                  These Wilder fan / Joshua haters just throw digs and mud but it's more bark than bite, especially when you throw in a fact or 2.
                  Last edited by DaNeutral.; 12-27-2019, 01:56 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
                    How come Andy ruiz has done far more in his career than Luis Ortiz ever has done yet Ruiz is a bum and Ortiz is a monster? These wilder fans opinions seem to be paper thin at best. Same with how wilder is deserving of 50% against AJ. All the facts, figures and numbers scream otherwise but they insist. Fair play to him if he got it but there is a massive clear A side here and it ain't wilder.

                    These Wilder fan / Joshua haters just throw digs and mud but it's more bark than bite, especially when you throw in a fact or 2.
                    They're really not smart at all, I ran into one earlier telling me Ortiz didn’t fight anyone else but Wilder from last year to current and he fought 3 times ? Ha

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      Wlad boxed for years as offensive first fighter vs shorter guys before jab and grab tactical fights he employed under steward with again much shorter guys well into a decade so why would AJ in one fight be compared to that ?

                      The only reason why the fight went 12 is because of Ruiz chin,how many guys did Klitschko not knockout ?


                      A master class is out boxing while doing damage ,don’t say there was none because AJs first right hand drew a cut .some of the slow motion clips showed the fat on Ruiz face going up and down with sweat and spit flying out of the ring but it’s not a master class ? O.K


                      Good to know you speak to AJ ,what else is bothering him besides a shut out of Ruiz ? Huh...Ha
                      When Lennox Lewis out boxed David Tua over 12 rounds, people where united in the boxing world 'And where calling it a complete master class'.

                      When Anthony Joshua out boxed Andy Ruiz Junior over 12 rounds, people where WRONGLY saying that he fought scared 'I could use another word, but I am not using that word' as the man is the heavyweight champion of the world.

                      The point I am trying to make is? Nobody in the boxing world, since December 7th has been united in describing Joshua's performances as a master class 'Because it was a not a master class' Pundits and experts at observing boxing, know that this fight was not a master class. They know that Anthony Joshua bizarrely struggles to utilize and tap into his attributes 'If Joshua is so big, and Ruiz Junior was so out of shape? He should of stopped Ruiz Junior or broke his will/determination inside of the ring at least.

                      Lennox Lewis broke David Tua's will/determination, after the fight Tua was not calling for any rematch as he was totally destroyed. When a fighter is put through a master class, there will/determination is broken, they are in a state of shock after the fight. We saw this when Bernard Hopkins beat Kelly Pavlik, or when Floyd Mayweather beat Canelo Alavarez.

                      On December 7th we did not see any signs of symptoms of Andy Ruiz Junior suffering any effects of being put through a master class 'In the closing moments of the 12 th round, we saw him beckoning Joshua on? And Anthony Joshua wanted none of it.

                      Anthony Joshua won the fight, his hard-work and diligence resulted in his executing his game plan. But he has not Slayed the Dragon, Andy Ruiz Junior in his mind? Still thinks he can beat Anthony Joshua, and is probably the only fighter who Joshua has faced 'Who is not overly intimidated by him'.

                      Anthony Joshua right now is in a rebuilding phase, his win in the rematch was stage 1 'Next year we will see Stage 2 & 3 be put into action'.

                      I personally just think there is unfinished business, and man to man Joshua deep down knows this also.




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