Can someone explain to me why wilder is allowed to get away with ducking whyte?

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  • GGG Gloveking
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    #31
    Originally posted by Ray*
    Sometimes i just shake my head at these posters that tries to re-write history. Don't they understand that they lose credibility by doing so?

    I mean i think Wilder ducked Whyte, but i don't have to make things up to try to make Wilder look bad.

    At no point did Hearn offered Whyte as a "Roadblock", Whyte was the number 1 ranked HW by the WBC and HE wanted the Wilder fight, Hearn acting on his behalf made what were offers on Whyte's behalf to Team Wilder.

    Both turned down by Wilder (asking for more money in one scenario - Which Hearn replied NO - i want an 11 inch *****), and the second offer was put Joshua's name on the contract..Which Hearn himself said its NOT possible.

    Those were the Whyte offers that i can remember. Some of these Fury fanatics really do make the real Fury fans look bad.
    I agree. When posters act like Hearn wasn't trying to set up a three man "tourney" between Wilder and Whyte, with AJ being the "Final", they do lose credibility...

    Hearn told Fight Hub in a video posted on Tuesday that he wants Wilder, who holds one of the heavyweight belts, to fight Dillian Whyte. Then, that winner would move on to fight Joshua

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    • LetOutTheCage
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      #32
      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
      You guys are trying to mince words here. Do we honestly not remember all the times Eddie said Wilder would have to fight someone else first?

      Let out the cage even acknowledges this with the statement in bold.

      Here's yet another quote, but I'm sure you guys will play semantics and say there's no element of demand there.

      Before Wilder stopped Bermane Stiverne inside a round in his sixth WBC heavyweight title defence, Hearn had spoken of plans to make him an offer to fight Joshua's rival Dillian Whyte.



      And here's another...

      Hearn told Fight Hub in a video posted on Tuesday that he wants Wilder, who holds one of the heavyweight belts, to fight Dillian Whyte. Then, that winner would move on to fight Joshua,

      https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...ilder-purse%2F
      Its not semantics your literally getting quotes from Wilder who says that Hearn said those things, stop spreading misinformation

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      • GGG Gloveking
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        #33
        Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
        Its not semantics your literally getting quotes from Wilder who says that Hearn said those things, stop spreading misinformation
        Read again, please.

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        • Ray*
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          #34
          Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
          I agree. When posters act like Hearn wasn't trying to set up a three man "tourney" between Wilder and Whyte, with AJ being the "Final", they do lose credibility...

          Hearn told Fight Hub in a video posted on Tuesday that he wants Wilder, who holds one of the heavyweight belts, to fight Dillian Whyte. Then, that winner would move on to fight Joshua

          https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...ilder-purse%2F
          So you are showing us an article where, Joshua/Parker was locked in for the other belts, and Hearn wants the number 1 ranked HW under the WBC (Whyte) to fight the champion (Wilder), so that the winner can fight the winner of Joshua/Parker...

          And thats supposed to be bad for us fans? This was when Wilder was fight rematching Bermane stirvene!!! Wow

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          • emceetns
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            #35
            Originally posted by BWC
            Different networks and promoters, no financial incentive. Everyone knows Whyte would be blasted out. Who cares..
            That may be true, however fights aren't won on paper and honestly I would have preferred to see Wilder-Whyte instead of Wilder-Ortiz 2. For a fresh match-up if nothing else.

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            • GGG Gloveking
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ray*
              So you are showing us an article where, Joshua/Parker was locked in for the other belts, and Hearn wants the number 1 ranked HW under the WBC (Whyte) to fight the champion (Wilder), so that the winner can fight the winner of Joshua/Parker...

              And thats supposed to be bad for us fans? This was when Wilder was fight rematching Bermane stirvene!!! Wow
              Yeah, wow...

              But that's not even the issue at hand, so don't try to pivot. The issue was whether or not Hearn had wanted Wilder to fight Whyte prior to, and as a condition of, fighting AJ. That was what the first poster said, and it was questioned. He has provided a link, and I have provided three, I believe.

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              • Ray*
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                #37
                Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
                Yeah, wow...

                But that's not even the issue at hand, so don't try to pivot. The issue was whether or not Hearn had wanted Wilder to fight Whyte prior to, and as a condition of, fighting AJ. That was what the first poster said, and it was questioned. He has provided a link, and I have provided three, I believe.
                So you are wrong then, the link that you provide was when Joshua/Parker was locked in for March 2018.

                Wilder was fighting Bermane in Nov 2017, the article was from october 2017.

                So fight Whyte the number 1 guy from your organisation in March 2018 (He rather went on to fight Ortiz for 2.1m when he was offered more for the Whyte fight).

                And if he beats Whyte he can face off against the Joshua/Parker winner.

                So NO the condition aren't the way you tried to twist it.

                The condition wasn't fight Whyte and get Joshua, the undisputed fight was laid up for us the fans perfectly.

                Joshua/Parker was already made for March 2018, it was fight your number 1 guy at HW Whyte (wbc) and the winner of both fight can fight for the undisputed....Again Wow that any boxing fans would twist that to fit their own narratives.

                Wilder fought Ortiz (In march 2018) instead for less pay than what he would have made fighting the number 1 guy at HW (Whyte).

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                • LetOutTheCage
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
                  Read again, please.
                  I did, he doesnt say Wilder has to fight Whyte to get to AJ

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
                    You guys are trying to mince words here. Do we honestly not remember all the times Eddie said Wilder would have to fight someone else first?

                    Let out the cage even acknowledges this with the statement in bold.

                    Here's yet another quote, but I'm sure you guys will play semantics and say there's no element of demand there.

                    Before Wilder stopped Bermane Stiverne inside a round in his sixth WBC heavyweight title defence, Hearn had spoken of plans to make him an offer to fight Joshua's rival Dillian Whyte.



                    And here's another...

                    Hearn told Fight Hub in a video posted on Tuesday that he wants Wilder, who holds one of the heavyweight belts, to fight Dillian Whyte. Then, that winner would move on to fight Joshua,

                    https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...ilder-purse%2F
                    Again no demand that he had to fight Whyte first. Just making stuff up. Hearn is Whyte's promoter too, he was trying to get Whyte a fight. Completely seperate to Joshua negotiations. It's pathetic how ****** some of you are.

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                    • Phenom
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Whatever your opinion on who wins the fight is irrelevant. Wilder is ducking Whyte and the WBC are helping him. The question is why? The most obvious reason would be that he's not so confident he can win.
                      WBC made Whyte pop dirty for anabolic steroids right??

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