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  • Stuart_boxer
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    Worried about CTE talk ruining boxing? Media likely Overstating dangers

    Scientists weigh in, video here;




    Cliffs;

    There's been a lot of talk in the media about this new brain disease CTE, particularly in the North American media USA and Canada.

    Many scientists now believe the talk is starting to reach a point of disproportionate panic and hysteria.

    Several people have now committed suicide after mis self diagnosing with CTE only to be found to have treatable conditions on autopsy.

    Timestamp 20:42 the professor roasts the link between CTE and suicide, saying suicide is far too multi factorial to be linked to the disease.

    The research group behind the 99% NFL study have been criticised by fellow professionals in the science world who have said they would "find CTE in a rock". A CTE diagnosis is not definitive and subject to variation among scientists.
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    I dunno, but it’s sad when past greats and not do greats struggle to string a sentence together by middle age ...
    I’m actually glad to I went with bodybuilding over boxing

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    • Stuart_boxer
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      Originally posted by Armchairhero
      I dunno, but it’s sad when past greats and not do greats struggle to string a sentence together by middle age ...
      I’m actually glad to I went with bodybuilding over boxing
      It affects some but no where near as many as the media would have you believe in my opinion.

      It's more of a thing for boxer's who carried on too long and journeyman.

      That's why the commission's really need to step in more on journeyman in my opinion.

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        ... Bennet Ifeakandu Omalu (born September 30, 1968[1]) is a Nigerian-American physician, forensic pathologist, and neuropathologist who was the first to discover and publish findings of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) in American football players while working at the Allegheny County coroner's office in Pittsburgh.[2] He later became the chief medical examiner for San Joaquin County, California, and is a professor at the University of California, Davis, department of medical pathology and laboratory medicine.[3] >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennet_Omalu



        Concussion is a 2015 American biographical sports drama film directed and written by Peter Landesman, based on the exposé "Game Brain" by Jeanne Marie Laskas, published in 2009 by GQ magazine.[6] Set in 2002, the film stars Will Smith as Dr. Bennet Omalu, a forensic pathologist who fights against the National Football League trying to suppress his research on chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) brain degeneration suffered by professional football players. It also stars Alec Baldwin, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and Albert Brooks.

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          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          ... Bennet Ifeakandu Omalu (born September 30, 1968[1]) is a Nigerian-American physician, forensic pathologist, and neuropathologist who was the first to discover and publish findings of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) in American football players while working at the Allegheny County coroner's office in Pittsburgh.[2] He later became the chief medical examiner for San Joaquin County, California, and is a professor at the University of California, Davis, department of medical pathology and laboratory medicine.[3] >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennet_Omalu



          Concussion is a 2015 American biographical sports drama film directed and written by Peter Landesman, based on the exposé "Game Brain" by Jeanne Marie Laskas, published in 2009 by GQ magazine.[6] Set in 2002, the film stars Will Smith as Dr. Bennet Omalu, a forensic pathologist who fights against the National Football League trying to suppress his research on chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) brain degeneration suffered by professional football players. It also stars Alec Baldwin, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and Albert Brooks.

          https://********/d9-JvPZVUbk?t=447

          Hollywood jumped the gun on that one according to some.

          That was a theory that has never been proved in the 15 years since the work.

          This guy does the same job as Omalu. He says according to him and all his colleagues "there's nothing there" in the Omalu report on Mike Webster;

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            Originally posted by Stuart_boxer
            https://********/d9-JvPZVUbk?t=447

            Hollywood jumped the gun on that one according to some.

            That was a theory that has never been proved in the 15 years since the work.

            This guy does the same job as Omalu. He says according to him and all his colleagues "there's nothing there" in the Omalu report on Mike Webster;

            ... "there's nothing there", of course... Omalu was actually fighting a multi-billion business, right?...

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              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              ... "there's nothing there", of course... Omalu was actually fighting a multi-billion business, right?...
              If Omalu was fighting the NFL who are so powerful then why is there a disproportionate amount of media about CTE in the American press?

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                You are incredibly ignorant. Do a bit of research regarding the effects of the brain slamming against the wall of the skull. Do you think the term "punchy" was coined decades ago for no particular reason? Do we just ignore the fact that we can observe many boxers suffering mental deterioration?

                Boxing is BRUTAL. That's why it's such an exciting and dramatic sport.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                  Do a bit of research regarding the effects of the brain slamming against the wall of the skull.
                  Well aside from working in medical research and having a degree in medical science I’ve also taken time to compile the video in the OP.

                  I must have “done a bit of research” to compile all the quotes and time stamps.

                  Care to actually post something from a scientific paper to support what you are saying or refute specific arguments.

                  Many of the best Neuroscientists in the world are cautioning that’s CTE is being over blown.

                  Besides CTE is not the only brain disease so I don’t see what your quote has to do with what I’m saying.

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                  • Redd Foxx
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Stuart_boxer
                    Well aside from working in medical research and having a degree in medical science I’ve also taken time to compile the video in the OP.

                    I must have “done a bit of research” to compile all the quotes and time stamps.

                    Care to actually post something from a scientific paper to support what you are saying or refute specific arguments.

                    Many of the best Neuroscientists in the world are cautioning that’s CTE is being over blown.

                    Besides CTE is not the only brain disease so I don’t see what your quote has to do with what I’m saying.
                    OOOOOhhh... so you're here to get clicks. That makes more sense.
                    This forum draws all types of idiots but I'm not too bothered by you as most here sense enough to see that what you're selling is a lie.

                    "The researchers found in both groups that those with more years of fighting experience overall, as well as those participating in more fights per year, were more likely to have lower brain volumes than fighters who had the least experience."

                    "Clinical and pathological features of CTE can manifest differently between sports, as rTBI exposure and mechanisms of impact can vary considerably. In fact, an analysis of previously reported CTE cases by Montenigro et al. [29] showed a vast difference in clinical presentation. 83% (5/6) of professional boxers, who had more debilitating motor impairments, compared to 18.8% (3/16) of professional football players. In addition, severe dentate neurofibrillary tangles were present in 17% (2/12) and 80% (4/5) of professional football players and boxers, respectively, indicating a more pernicious progression in boxers [29]. The difference in symptoms and neuropathology may be explained through the frequency of linear and rotational impact forces that occur in both sports."

                    And, here's some material you can educate yourself with. I'm not going to get in a big back and forth with you and your premise is ****** and I already see you have a backdoor escape (you're going to say, "I didn't say it doesn't exist, I only said the media... bla bla bla").



                    Revisiting chronic traumatic encephalopathy Chronic traumatic brain injury or chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) is considered by some authorities to be the most serious health problem in modern day boxing.1 The condition is often referred to by a number of names in the medical and non-medical literature including dementia pugilistica and “punch drunk” syndrome. Whilst there exists great controversy regarding the ethics of boxing, one of the key medical issues is the risk of a boxer developing CTE either during or after his boxing career. Recent evidence suggests that exposure to boxing alone is insufficient to cause this condition. It is believed that CTE represents the cumulative long term neurological consequences of repetitive concussive and sub concussive blows to the head.1–,4 CTE is more common in professional rather than amateur boxers, however, CTE has been documented in other sports such as American …


                    Fighters who fought for nine years or longer performed worse on memory tests; brain volume changes may occur years before symptoms or emerge


                    An interesting study was published recently in the Journal of Vascular and Interventional Neurology reviewing published literature involving CTE in athletes looking for an explanation for the varia…


                    https://canadianmmalawblog.files.wor...act-sports.pdf

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