Eddie Hearn Guarantees Joshua V. Fury

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  • kushking
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    #21
    Originally posted by Inspired
    lol i know im going to enjoy this. seriously man, it's all good backing your guy, but dont twist the truth, i hate that, i followed what was said. i have a fairly good memory so can recall the contexts/timing.

    if you're going to reply to me, reply legit/logical arguments. i doubt you will tbh. you've done this before.


    -the $50m number came about after Schaeffer said 'that fight does $100m' which in the context was referring to the proposed wembley fight.

    -AJ responded 'give me $50m' but it was still in reference to the proposed Wembley fight. all that was changing was the financial risk. How do i know that for sure? it's because AJ/Hearn both said 'we're projecting it to do $60m, not $100m'

    -offer of $50m was made, no details were given. No terms, no contract..
    if the shoe was on the other foot, i know how you'd spin it.
    Finkle only said 'it's where and when wilder wants' (which means it negates what aj was discussing) and there's no rematch clause if aj loses'. So totally diff terms right?
    Months later frank warren lied and said 'i saw the contract (why him?), it was a guaranteed 2 fight deal even if he lost he would get $30m for the rematch'. Finkle was sat right next to frank warren smiling. What sort of bs is that man?
    it's funny you hate eddie for being white, finkle and frank warren are not only white, they're some of the dodgiest people in the sport..ask shannon briggs and mike tyson.

    the same AJ that said "you go train and fight wilder if you think its so easy"


    Someone in the crowd jumped at the opportunity and shouted, “AJ, we want Wilder!”

    “Let them train to be a fighter and fight (Deontay) Wilder,” Joshua told AP. “It’s easy talking about it. It’s another thing doing.”


    basically
    'if you're not in boxing, dont understand the context, dont just spout ****'
    you get idiots saying 'we want wilder next' who dont know anything about the business side of boxing, who dont know about contexts im discussing like what schaeffer said, what eddie/aj said and what was done after. it's easy to talk as a common pleb, another to actually be the one doing it.

    the same aj/hearn that had wilder banned from entering the ring after an AJ fight....


    you know this how? was there a court order barring Wilder?
    Johnny Nelson, the sky sports pundit AND EDDIE HEARN!!!(lmfao you're getting owned here) were the ones who said Wilder should come, get in the ring etc.
    Eddie repeatedly said 'the worlds media will be there, wilder should come to promote that fight'.

    Then wilder said 'aj put a restraining order on me' (totally made up). When aj was asked he denied it outright and said 'all im saying is, i'd rather sign the contract first and then do that sort of thing'
    which btw, only proves aj wanted the fight..
    'sign the contract first'


    After making threats that he'd confront the winner of this Saturday's heavyweight unification fight, Deontay Wilder won't be in Cardiff on March 31st.


    “Yes, he’s more than welcome,” Joshua, the IBF/IBO/WBA champ, told Sky Sports recently, “but the difference is – when Klitschko came over to watch me in Manchester [in December 2016], we had a signed deal. It was signed and sealed, provided I won [against Eric Molina].

    “With Wilder, I’m just not into the hype. If he wants to come over, get in the ring and all that stuff – I just prefer it if he had a fight in place to talk about. Because if not, it’s just hype.”





    You don’t get in the ring at this time. Anthony will probably call you into the ring, but it’s not like we’re announcing a fight. ‘He’s was going to work for Sky. I mean he would have been a yard from Anthony Joshua as he’s getting interviewed but he just didn’t fancy it. Dillian Whyte’s there as well. He would have been calling Wilder’s name out. ‘Wladimir Klitschko, he said he wanted the fight, he signed a contract. Joseph Parker, he said he wanted the fight, he signed the contract.

    ‘The entire world’s boxing media and sporting media will be there on Saturday. It would have been massive for Deontay Wilder’s profile to be there, but for some reason he doesn’t want to be there, make of that what you will. ‘That tells me one thing, he doesn’t really want this fight.’



    Explain to me why wilder was offered commentary for that fight then? even the klitschko fight.
    like i said, he was at the klit fight, saw it..and called out tony bellew in the parking lot.
    how the **** you going to defend that? lmfao mate you're an absolute joke.


    the same aj/hearn who was advised by hearns daddy to stay away from wilder for at least 2 years in august 2018....
    no...
    barry: i think we should build that fight up
    BUT my son wants to make the fight NOW

    one again, you're quoting out of context and lying about what was said, fking hate liars like you.


    talkin about the same aj/hearn who were blamed for ducking by people in the sport such a lennox, froch, fury etc....

    froch was joking, that's his humour, he said it right in front of eddie..
    fury is a rival this
    lennox is an al haymon guy.

    how the **** was that even a point?


    NO, YOU'RE the laughing stock mate.
    the lgbt/pbc black cult who worship al haymon, aka dr narcisse.
    you guys regularly get mocked by youtubers like Bruce Vane, Myrone Magnus, counterpunch boxing news (all americans).


    i am an AJ fan, but more than that, i support the guy who i can see is blatantly being attacked by this crazy black cult in the US with nothing but lies, envy and hate.
    seriously you guys behave like those black hebrew/israelite claimants who stand around wearing tinfoil power rangers costumes calling every white person an 'edomite'.
    that is basically what you guys are about.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

    This link proves YOU are completely full of sht.(and everyone besides dummies like you know I am the ABSOLUTE furthest from a pro pbc cultist or any of that bs as I constantly call out pbc fighters for being protected like charlo & Andrade & others previously,as I do fighters of every single promoter including the promoter of my favorites. I have been calling Wilder"completely 1 dimensional" for years. Now that we have established my rep,AJ CLEARLY ducked Wilder once & the deal Wilder turned down cannot be called a duck because of everything it entailed & the fact that since then Wilders on route to make more money than the deal was for also.

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    • Inspired
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      #22
      Originally posted by kushking
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

      This link proves YOU are completely full of sht.(and everyone besides dummies like you know I am the ABSOLUTE furthest from a pro pbc cultist or any of that bs as I constantly call out pbc fighters for being protected like charlo & Andrade & others previously,as I do fighters of every single promoter including the promoter of my favorites. I have been calling Wilder"completely 1 dimensional" for years. Now that we have established my rep,AJ CLEARLY ducked Wilder once & the deal Wilder turned down cannot be called a duck because of everything it entailed & the fact that since then Wilders on route to make more money than the deal was for also.

      You actually thought that linked proved anything? if you even bothered to read what ive been saying..you'd know that AJ had maintained his position on fighting that first fight at Wembley/in the uk from day 1. So maintaining that position was his right as the A side and the one holding the majority of belts.

      The proposed fight was for wembley. The offer was $12.5m for wilder. Schaeffer jumped in saying 'that fight will do $100m in revenue' to which Hearn responded saying 'we estimate it around $60m'.
      That was what led AJ to say 'give me $50m and ill take the fight'...where in the context he was clearly still talking about the original offer/terms but telling wilder's side to put their money where their mouth is.

      context does matter.
      it's like this
      say you and me were going to fight in my country. I offered you x amount, only for people to say 'nah it will do $1m in revenue, pay more'
      then i say 'ok you want it that way? give me 500k and the rest is yours'
      the implication here is that you're now forced to hand me 500k and take a risk..
      it's easy to make demands when you're not taking the financial risk.


      now just an example of how wilder's side bs'ed and tried to fk over aj with that dodgy offer.

      -finkle was on a dan rafael article on espn saying 'theres no rematch clause if aj loses and it's when/where wilder chooses' (which completely changes the context from what was originally proposed/discussed).
      -months later during the fury-wilder press tour, Frank Warren kept saying he had seen the contract himself and it was a guaranteed 2 fight offer for $80m even if aj lost. Finkle was sat there smiling...which goes to show how full of **** these people are. Why would frank even know about an offer when its not his fighter and doesnt concern him? well...frank said the offer was coming from bt sports...NOT AL HAYMON!! and that was either bs or it was true, but eitherway it would mean aj who's under contract with sky sports, would be in some legal limbo.
      The truth is, Frank Warren scammed a ton of boxers in their day, it is widely known, he's taken guys to court and lost, bankrupted his company to start again twice. He was shot by one of his guys.
      Finkle robbed Shannon Briggs of his Vitali klitschko money.
      Seriously man, THESE are the people involved working against aj who's working with eddie hearn? AJ is smart, he obviously avoided geting dragged into that trap.

      -in the US, in many states inc NY, a verbal agreement on camera is legally binding. Just think about that..wilder demanded aj makes a video saying 'deontay wilder i accept your offer' (trying to demean him, make him look weak). Aj chose his words carefully by saying 'let's go' on twitter rather than 'omg i accept'.


      You can insist im biased but i followed the story as it happened. i happen to own a store and sit around serving customers whilst watching these videos on my tv. im always watching boxing related videos..and i have a fairly good memory to remember how it went down.


      now look at the article you linked..here's what's in it

      [I]"One thing is for absolute certain, AJ wants Wilder next," Hearn said. "He’s made that clear. He also feels though, after talking to Rob McCracken, his trainer and manager, that this is a fight that should be delivered in the UK. One for the fans and two, he feels like he’s earned that right."
      your article proves my point. aj wanted the fight badly, but he wanted it at wembley. he had the venue prebooked twice (in september and april).

      Furthermore check this out
      you know Espinoza of showtime has been regularly hating on Eddie Hearn. That guy had a working relationship with Wilder. They were on the same page pretty much.
      So Espinoza knew before hand Canelo vs GGG 2 was in the works, thus Wilder and his team also knew.
      To me it seems they deliberately tried all these antics, derailed the talks, refused to meet with eddie hearn to discuss terms even when he was on their doorstep multiple times...until Canelo GGG was announced for September, clashing with the September Wembley date for the AJ fight. they waited for that opportune moment to then go all out about how eddie has lied and has moved the venue.

      i dont understand how anyone, even as biased (ans you are def biased because you've read everything i wrote and still ignored it) as you, could support wilder when he was blatantly bending the truth to suit himself.
      After canelo vs ggg was announced..Eddie publicly explained that it's likely now they'll do the fight in October, ruling out Wembley (it rains heavily in october), so they'd do it in Cardiff in front of 80k in the closed roof stadium. That's where the Parker fight took place, it's just as good as Wembley.

      when the wilder fight fell through and Povetkin was announced as mandatory, that fight wasnt going to clash with canelo-ggg on showtime, so aj could go back to doing that fight at Wembley for the September date.

      honestly, the more i talk to you guys, the more i realise you're beyond help. You guys, the majority of you, are ****** people. you lack basic common sense, intelligence, lack the ability to understand contexts or even remember what's been said.
      you've quoted me, had the audacity to respond and yet ignored the very point i was making. not only that, the article you linked proves me right and proves you wrong.

      trust me, id rather not be constantly talking about this ****, but it annoys me when i see wilder fangirls on here lying..

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      • Monzon99
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        #23
        There is a video of Joshua being asked about how to fight Wilder and he laughs, like it will be a piece of cake, saying you only have to guard against the right hand, that's all he has. But the laugh of Joshua was very telling. If Wilder saw that chuckle, he surely sha7 himself.

        Like when Wladimir Klitschko said he would "have fun" picking apart Valuev. Of course King and Valuev ducked that slaughterhouse. Just like Wilder is obscenely ducking AJ for years now.

        The $50m offer was a fraud offer, if it was real, why didn't they offer it again? Or provide Hearn with details? Why did Shirley Winkel refuse to meet in person with Hearn in NYC to discuss the details of the $50m? Because it was a fraud PR offer.

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