Davis vs Gamboa

[BoxingIsGreat]

So far the poll says Gamboa has no chance. C'mon guys.

[Blond Beast]

I don't see it that way at all. Davis will see what Gamboa has in a couple of rounds, unless Gamboa gets too aggressive. I expect it to last long otherwise.

Most people understand the concept of Vegas odds I think. I’ve never studied Tank that much, but I’d have him around -650, though I expect Vegas will have him even higher. It doesn’t mean it won’t go the distance or that it won’t even be competitive. It’s just hard to imagine that as close as it potentially could be that Gamboa would be the one edging it out. Gamboa could be better than the odds but I don’t see him beating Tank. Huge Corey Sanders fan. Still I can’t say I heard anyone predict the Wlad fight going down like it did at the time. Corey I’d say also hit comparatively harder than Gamboa. Not to mention he’s willing to just chuck until he’s spent, taking the punishment along the way. Gamboas short arms really make things hard for him.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Most people understand the concept of Vegas odds I think. I’ve never studied Tank that much, but I’d have him around -650, though I expect Vegas will have him even higher. It doesn’t mean it won’t go the distance or that it won’t even be competitive. It’s just hard to imagine that as close as it potentially could be that Gamboa would be the one edging it out. Gamboa could be better than the odds but I don’t see him beating Tank. Huge Corey Sanders fan. Still I can’t say I heard anyone predict the Wlad fight going down like it did at the time. Corey I’d say also hit comparatively harder than Gamboa. Not to mention he’s willing to just chuck until he’s spent, taking the punishment along the way. Gamboas short arms really make things hard for him.

Great post. I don't know anything about Vegas odds, not one thing. -650 means 6-1 Davis? I respect Gamboa.

What I meant about Wlad is, although he was KOed hard by average fighters, he came back strong at 38. I think his fight against Joshua was his gutsiest, best fight.

I know Wlad from way back when.

[Citizen Koba]

You are getting so aggressive, and ******, why? I'd say Gamboa is just as good as all those and has close or better credentials.

Sanders KOing Wlad was a highlight reel.

I like Tank but you're maybe trying a little hard here to make Yuri look like he's still a top class opponent. This ain't the Gamboa of 2010 or 2012, man. Dude was dropped by Rene Alvarado (which maybe now doesn't look quite as bad as it did) and stopped by Castellanos... and that was near 3 years ago.

Best you could say about Gamboa in the last 5 years is making a real fight of it with Sosa even though many felt he lost, and scoring an impressive KO over a Martinez who had been out of the ring for near 3 years bar an irrelevent tune up.

Tank is good man, but the bookies odds are at least as much a reflection of the fact that pretty much everyone reckons that Yuri is completely done at the top level as they are a recognition of Tank's quality.

[Mister Wolf]

Gamboa is older than Timothy Bradley.

[Ray*]

Nah, the only people picking a dead Gamboa are probably Cubans or the haters who are hoping Tank loses. This fight does nothing for Tank at this stage of his career. A huge let down matchmaking.

[Blond Beast]

Great post. I don't know anything about Vegas odds, not one thing. -650 means 6-1 Davis? I respect Gamboa.

What I meant about Wlad is, although he was KOed hard by average fighters, he came back strong at 38. I think his fight against Joshua was his gutsiest, best fight.

I know Wlad from way back when.

Thanks. I followed Wlad and his brother from about 2000. Big fan of both. I think Vitali has a real chance against all of history. If a fighter is -1000 it means u gotta bet $1000 to win $100. Ud think that would mean the underdog would be +1000 meaning if u bet $100 ud win $1000. Favourite being 10-1 to win the underdog being 1-10 to win. But it’s not how it works. The underdog would usually be like +600. Meaning u can only make 6x ur money betting on an underdog win while u can lose 10x more than u stood to win betting on a favourite that losses. Also Vegas needs to balance their books, so if too much money comes in on one fighter they have to adjust the odds to make it more enticing for people to bet on the other fighter. It’s all carefully done mathematically, basically so no matter what happens they hopefully don’t lose money because it was never actually equal. The mob makes so much money off books by charging a “vig” which is a fee paid just to be allowed to make a bet. Plus they cuff bets and charge interest. Course sometimes books can end up losing huge money on rare occasions with crazy outcomes and bets. One way to put it is that the favourite may be given %80 chance to win while the underdog will be given a %60 chance to lose. I don’t mean to run my mouth like I’m sum math whizz but understanding the concept behind Vegas odds does add to boxing. U may have ur own idea of a fight outcome but at the same time u can predict what the Vegas odds will be and it will make sense. A lot of people on here can prolly predict the Vegas odds almost perfectly for most fights. Truth is with experience they usually are exactly what iud expect. U may think Gamboa has a decent chance, then it might be worthwhile to bet if u can get odds that will 10-15x ur money. A lot of casual betters May bet a couple bucks on an underdog just at a chance. The more money on the underdog may cause the book to adjust the odds so more money will come on on the favourite. That’s when a lot of Sharpes or pro gamblers may come in last minute and bet huge on the favourite. Nothing has changed physically or skill wise between the two fighters, just now u can make more betting on the guy u always thought would win in the first place. Look at the size of a casino, it explains Vegas odds. I knew Nunes would destroy Cyborg but I didn’t have the balls to bet huge on it. I have enough vices. I apologize to everyone for this long winded email, and if anyone can add to it or critique please do. I just think understanding the concept of Vegas odds ads to the sport. It’s not something that is ever really going to be explained on air.

[Nash out]

I love Tank, quality fighter, Gamboa is still a good level operator. I see Tank winning, and likely by mid rounds stoppage, but it's a good fight. In 2020 though I'd like Tank to fight one of the elite names in or around his division, it's his time now I think. Potential superstar.

[Shape up]

What does that have to do with this thread? Shtty attempt at misdirection.

And big LOL at comparing Gamboa to Wlad, Rigo or Golovkin.

Yeah, that was a poor attempt, Gamboa apparently moved weights as an amateur because he couldn’t better Rigo, so he had to move or miss out on championships